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				<title>[1000] - Space Marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Captain on bike, lightning claw, combiplasma 135<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 3 bikes 2 gravs/combigrav = 103<br /> 3 bikes 2 gravs/combigrav = 103<br /> <br /> 5 Scouts 4 shotguns, meltabomb, land speeder storm, assault cannon 115<br /> <br /> 6 scout bikes, 3 grenade launchers, meltabomb, 128<br /> <br /> Fast Attack<br /> 2 Land speeders <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>mm</span> + ass cannon 150 <br /> 2 land speeders <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>mm</span> + ass cannon 150 <br /> Storm talon skyhammer 115<br /> <br /> 999<br /> <br /> <br /> Any way to tweak this list for a friendly "tournament" a few weekends from now with 3 friends, Orks, Eldar and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>. Eternal War. We'll play 3 matches obviously on saturday, and then a 2v2 on sunday, best player and worst vs the 2 middle ones.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:14:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:[1000] - Space Marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I dislike the storm talon on such low points. Since he may come too late and in 1000 points he is a big chunk of your points. <br /> I'd also ditch the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> for relic blade if you can find the points even the Teeth of Tera are a good solutions. <br /> Also grav as great as it is for low points is kind of mehh. Grav is great to kill wraith knights or other Gargs or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>mcs</span> but against orks or even most of the stuff that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>csm</span> brings ( spawns + cultists + maulerfiends) you can brake the maulerfiends but with this few gravs I'd would not bet on that 6.<br /> Now if that Eldar bastard is using a Wraith knight on these points you will need to change your army you will need to add tigirius + grav centurions in a drop pod and show him the middle finger but since it is a friendly competition I hope you did not go this far.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:57:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ fearzffs]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the response!<br /> <br /> Eldar IS bringing a wraithknight. Its his house and snacks, so we wont complain. I dont have grav centurions unfortunately :(<br /> <br /> What do you think dropping the storm talon and taking 2 whirlwinds (stripping the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(380);'>gl</span> from the scout bikers for the extra 15 points)<br /> <br /> Or perhaps 1 whirlwind and a teeth of terra for the captain, and then a Hyperios Air Defence Battery or 2 more scout bikers for the scout unit?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 23 Apr 2016 18:18:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ triplegrim]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I prefer thunderfire cannon but whirlwinds still 2 whirlwinds i remember a formation with them supression force i think.<br /> Know still you will have to ignore the wraith knight since you cannot kill him with 4 gravs and 2 combis. You got 3shots per grav which is 18 shots from the 2 sqads out of which 12 hits statistically and 8 wounds and he will save with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>fnp</span> like 2 or3 and there you go your bikers are out of position for nothing.<br /> I kind of dislike em in this set up.<br /> Maybe drop the gravs and run them as scoaring unit of infantry or go tank hunter with meltas.<br /> If you want post your models and we can put our heads together.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 23 Apr 2016 19:18:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ fearzffs]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I actually have a lot of stuff, but not really anything that is very good.<br /> <br /> Baal predator<br /> 1 attack bike<br /> 10 Assault marines w/jetpack<br /> 10 Terminators<br /> 2 Land raiders<br /> 1 Furisio<br /> 1 Dreadnought<br /> 6 Devastators<br /> 6 land speeders<br /> 20 scouts<br /> Lots of marines<br /> mephiston<br /> Dante<br /> An unbuilt Storm Raven<br /> 3 Razorbacks (which can pretty much proxy as anything on the Rhino chassis)<br /> <br /> I also have tau that I can ally I guess.<br /> 5 pirahnas<br /> 4 crisis suits<br /> some kroot, drones and fire warrrios<br /> Hammerhead<br /> <br /> And some imperial guard soldiers, 2 chimeras and a leman russ.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 24 Apr 2016 11:06:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ triplegrim]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I’d try to find points for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> for the captain.  Do you have a bike lib?<br /> <br /> Bikes are fine.  I’d like to see some spare bodies to soak wounds to help preserve the grav.<br /> <br /> Not sure if the AsC on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(440);'>LSS</span> is worth the points.  Very fragile platform.  Scouts should do OK.<br /> <br /> I like scout bikes.  If you need to shave points, dropping the two normal ones from the squad would probably be worth it.<br /> <br /> Those are expensive speeders that need to be in close to work.  I prefer TML/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> ones that can hang back and shoot.  If you are going to charge in, I might go 2xMM.  What you have should work, as it’s more flexible.  But if you go up against a hard target, the cannon might just spang off while the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> hopes it doesn’t roll ones.<br /> <br /> Do you expect other flyers?  I like talons, but it is a chunk of your points.  It’s a moderate high risk, with a reasonable reward.  Just something to keep in mind.<br /> <br /> One thing to keep in mind is formations.  You have a lot of units that slot well into the new ones from the AoD book that just came out.  (or were previously out in the Tau warzone book)  Might be worth looking into.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 24 Apr 2016 13:05:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think the orc will bring a blitzbomba or what they are called, as he has few models. No eldar flier. Probably a Heldrake in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> list. <br /> <br /> After looking at the grenade launcher of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(440);'>LSS</span>, I ditched the assault cannon. <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:04:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ triplegrim]]></author>
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