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Any options open - daemons, marines, KDK, renegades or any other forge world options that may be out there.

I really can't think of many options. Could use a gorepack or spawns for fast movement (though they may get shot as trying to run forwards), or a summoning lord of change to rustle up some backfield bodies? Alternatively could run some dragoons / ironstriders and count them as dark mechanicus or something.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689216/8621572.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689216/8621572.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689216/8621936.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689216/8621936.page GMT CSM and KDK things I've seen used effectively against me are Outflanking Flesh Hounds from the Gorepack, small units of combi-melta & power axe/maul deepstriking Terminators, Huron Blackheart used to Outflank melta/plasma Chosen/Marines and the Mayhem Pack for deepstriking Helbrutes. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689216/8622107.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689216/8622107.page GMT
Can't say I've ever really seen the appeal of those three-man terminator units though, and Huron's quite expensive just to get outflank.

Chaos really don't seem to have many options when compared with loyalists - you could choose between drop pods, skyhammer force, ravenwing, sentinels, ironstrider cavaliers, raptor wing to name a few.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689216/8622863.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689216/8622863.page GMT MoN they are quite durable.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689216/8622883.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689216/8622883.page GMT