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				<description><![CDATA[ I have been looking through <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> fluff and stumbled upon a bit about the grey Knights having a mystery box that was to be opened in case of an emergency. <br /> Any ideas what it could be?]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Grey Knights 'Mystery Box'</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The embarassing picture of Kaldor Draigo at the Sanguila party.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Popular theory is that it can shut down the Golden Throne releasing the Emperor fully unto the Warp to become a true Warp god. Hence the it can save the Imperium or tear it apart. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It contains a small book, with the words "Don't panic" in big, comforting letters on the back.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 4 May 2016 21:18:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8632894.page"><b>SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:</b></a><br/>Popular theory is that it can shut down the Golden Throne releasing the Emperor fully unto the Warp to become a true Warp god. Hence the it can save the Imperium or tear it apart. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That actually makes sense.  The Emperor personally oversaw the founding of the Grey Knights, right?  <br /> <br /> Of course, given the direction of current <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> fluff, it'll probably turn out to be a magic sword or something.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 4 May 2016 21:22:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/942d47064ab25116078779e73bd0085f.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8633302.page"><b>Polonius wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8632894.page"><b>SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:</b></a><br/>Popular theory is that it can shut down the Golden Throne releasing the Emperor fully unto the Warp to become a true Warp god. Hence the it can save the Imperium or tear it apart. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That actually makes sense.  The Emperor personally oversaw the founding of the Grey Knights, right?  <br /> <br /> Of course, given the direction of current <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> fluff, it'll probably turn out to be a magic sword or something.</div></blockquote><br /> Wasnt it Malcador who setup the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It'll likely contain a box, that contains another box, with a box inside that... ad infinitum.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Its probably for when the crunch of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(146);'>WH40k</span> becomes so bad that Traditio's proposed rules don't look so bad. Upon opening the box, a psychic beacon will be activated that hails Matthew Ward from the recesses of the Webway. He is our only salvation in that event.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 5 May 2016 01:20:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/16ff500c2602bd851ac364bbc44700d4.jpeg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8633742.page"><b>Tactical_Spam wrote:</b></a><br/>Its probably for when the crunch of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(146);'>WH40k</span> becomes so bad that Traditio's proposed rules don't look so bad. Upon opening the box, a psychic beacon will be activated that hails Matthew Ward from the recesses of the Webway. He is our only salvation in that event.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> For it as it is foretold, "if all follow the liege, we may all be broken. But if all are wardian, perhaps none shall truly be broken." -last words of the prophet of the workshop, Kirby the insolent.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1a1ab2069167d6211db35331c2e882b7.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8633805.page"><b>thepowerfulwill wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/16ff500c2602bd851ac364bbc44700d4.jpeg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8633742.page"><b>Tactical_Spam wrote:</b></a><br/>Its probably for when the crunch of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(146);'>WH40k</span> becomes so bad that Traditio's proposed rules don't look so bad. Upon opening the box, a psychic beacon will be activated that hails Matthew Ward from the recesses of the Webway. He is our only salvation in that event.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> For it as it is foretold, "if all follow the liege, we may all be broken. But if all are wardian, perhaps none shall truly be broken." -last words of the prophet of the workshop, Kirby the insolent.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Hey, Ward was a great crunch writer. He knew a thing or two about internal balance, <a href="https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Robin_Cruddace" target="_new" rel="nofollow">unlike some people</a>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It contains the secret of what the Rock is really cooking]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It contains the most potent weapon of all... a carefully preserved stingray's spike, the legendary artifact that ended the life of the first Perpetual, Stevinus Erwine.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/55c58a5908bac75a8d8a697378c2d98e.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8634361.page"><b>Furyou Miko wrote:</b></a><br/>It contains the most potent weapon of all... a carefully preserved stingray's spike, the legendary artifact that ended the life of the first Perpetual, Stevinus Erwine.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Was he the Primarch of the Second Legion, the Hunters Crocodilynae?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8632894.page"><b>SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:</b></a><br/>Popular theory is that it can shut down the Golden Throne releasing the Emperor fully unto the Warp to become a true Warp god. Hence the it can save the Imperium or tear it apart. </div></blockquote><br /> This is what I expect it could be. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Matt Ward, greater deamon of retcons]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It is the entrance to the realm where odd socks go. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There is another theory that instead of turning off the Golden Throne and letting the Emperor become a warp god he instead returns to the mortal realm of realspace to lead humanity as a human again.<br /> <br /> (All Custodes are afraid that it'll make the warp rift in the throne bigger, I bet.)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Could be an exterminatus on Terra. Just in case that warp rift beneath the golden throne got out of hand you'd need someone to stop the tide of deamons to devour the most psychic potent place in the universe. <br /> <br /> Edit: Or it's actually made of cardboard and contains sly marbos twin: Ekans Dilos ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/64b1af8828f355846b5095a87808e9ab.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8636188.page"><b>TheManWithNoPlan wrote:</b></a><br/>There is another theory that instead of turning off the Golden Throne and letting the Emperor become a warp god he instead returns to the mortal realm of realspace to lead humanity as a human again.<br /> <br /> (All Custodes are afraid that it'll make the warp rift in the throne bigger, I bet.)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Where has the notion that he will become a god by this happening come from?  It's my understanding that if his mind is no longer anchored to the golden throne via his body, then they will no longer be able to feed his spirit with sacrificed psykers, and so it would wither and die.<br /> <br /> I think it's more likely that the terminus decree would destroy terra and seal the webway rift.  I'm sure I remember reading that the fight with Horus destroyed the Emperor's powers of perpetuity (hence why they had to throne him), and so if he dies, he's gone for good.  Hard to remember through over 25 years of fluff reading and the retcons though, so might be wrong.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/4b4bfb48b9ecad64faab6f73736f9495.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8638815.page"><b>JamesY wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> I think it's more likely that the terminus decree would destroy terra and seal the webway rift.  I'm sure I remember reading that the fight with Horus destroyed the Emperor's powers of perpetuity (hence why they had to throne him), and so if he dies, he's gone for good.  Hard to remember through over 25 years of fluff reading and the retcons though, so might be wrong.</div></blockquote><br /> Pretty sure the fight between Horus and the Emperor hasn't been elaborated on since they introduced the Perpetuals. <br /> <br /> The idea of the Emperor becoming a Warp God stems in part from the Star Child fluff. In <i>Inquisitor </i>I believe there was also mention of the Emperor being able to be reborn but some were opposed to it (for fear it would tear the Imperium asunder). <br /> <br /> Merely destroying Terra couldn't really save the Imperium even if it was in dire straits. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It casts the Rubric of Ahriman.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Abadabadoobaddon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8639164.page"><b>SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/4b4bfb48b9ecad64faab6f73736f9495.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8638815.page"><b>JamesY wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> I think it's more likely that the terminus decree would destroy terra and seal the webway rift.  I'm sure I remember reading that the fight with Horus destroyed the Emperor's powers of perpetuity (hence why they had to throne him), and so if he dies, he's gone for good.  Hard to remember through over 25 years of fluff reading and the retcons though, so might be wrong.</div></blockquote><br /> Pretty sure the fight between Horus and the Emperor hasn't been elaborated on since they introduced the Perpetuals. <br /> <br /> The idea of the Emperor becoming a Warp God stems in part from the Star Child fluff. In <i>Inquisitor </i>I believe there was also mention of the Emperor being able to be reborn but some were opposed to it (for fear it would tear the Imperium asunder). <br /> <br /> Merely destroying Terra couldn't really save the Imperium even if it was in dire straits. </div></blockquote><br /> Destroying Terra seems more like it would make it go down even faster.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8639164.page"><b>SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/4b4bfb48b9ecad64faab6f73736f9495.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8638815.page"><b>JamesY wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> I think it's more likely that the terminus decree would destroy terra and seal the webway rift.  I'm sure I remember reading that the fight with Horus destroyed the Emperor's powers of perpetuity (hence why they had to throne him), and so if he dies, he's gone for good.  Hard to remember through over 25 years of fluff reading and the retcons though, so might be wrong.</div></blockquote><br /> Pretty sure the fight between Horus and the Emperor hasn't been elaborated on since they introduced the Perpetuals. <br /> <br /> The idea of the Emperor becoming a Warp God stems in part from the Star Child fluff. In <i>Inquisitor </i>I believe there was also mention of the Emperor being able to be reborn but some were opposed to it (for fear it would tear the Imperium asunder). <br /> <br /> Merely destroying Terra couldn't really save the Imperium even if it was in dire straits. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Do you mean the Ian Watson book?  Or the game rule book?<br /> <br /> I think I read it in one of Merrett's offerings, perhaps the previous Visions of Heresy book (the silver one).  Might have misread something though.<br /> <br /> I don't think it can be a silver bullet save, otherwise they'd already have pushed the button.  Damage limitation, and preventing the enemy from claiming the Golden Throne, and the Emp's body, seems more likely.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Grey Knights 'Mystery Box'</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/4b4bfb48b9ecad64faab6f73736f9495.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/689819/8639503.page"><b>JamesY wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> I don't think it can be a silver bullet save, otherwise they'd already have pushed the button.  Damage limitation, and preventing the enemy from claiming the Golden Throne, and the Emp's body, seems more likely.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That's the problem - the Grey Knights themselves don't actually know what it does, so they're too scared to press it outside the literal fall of Titan.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Furyou Miko]]></author>
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