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				<title>Astartes Grav Tank?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So ive been toying with the idea of making a few (3) but what im concerned about is what i should count them as? Im thinking predators maybe even land speeders as they are hover but im just curious what should i use them as? another question would be would you allow them on your tabletop?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 May 2016 19:58:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Astartes Grav Tank?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ We'd need either more of a description of size and armament or some pics to make any sound judgment.<br /> <br /> Really though, you should be going by size and weapons to determine that.  If it looks like an astartes tank with standard <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> (or close enough) weapons to be obvious, then go right ahead.  If you have something that's the size of a predator with an autocannon and lascannons, but play it as a speeder...that's where you'll get a few raised eyebrows.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 May 2016 20:04:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Astartes Grav Tank?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <img src="http://www.spikeybits.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/1374254945533-472x198.jpg" border="0" /><br /> This is what it looks like so i was leaning more towards a pred the full details can be found <a href="http://www.spikeybits.com/2015/06/1-famous-40k-conversion-flashback.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">here</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 May 2016 20:07:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Astartes Grav Tank?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690050/8637906.page"><b>bann154 wrote:</b></a><br/><img src="http://www.spikeybits.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/1374254945533-472x198.jpg" border="0" /><br /> This is what it looks like so i was leaning more towards a pred the full details can be found <a href="http://www.spikeybits.com/2015/06/1-famous-40k-conversion-flashback.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">here</a></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The classic deodorant tank! If you'd want to play against me with something as cool as that I'd be more than happy to comply.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 May 2016 20:59:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lammikkovalas]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Astartes Grav Tank?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/2496412ff6ac9f399bca0476be9297bd.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690050/8638029.page"><b>Lammikkovalas wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690050/8637906.page"><b>bann154 wrote:</b></a><br/><img src="http://www.spikeybits.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/1374254945533-472x198.jpg" border="0" /><br /> This is what it looks like so i was leaning more towards a pred the full details can be found <a href="http://www.spikeybits.com/2015/06/1-famous-40k-conversion-flashback.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">here</a></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The classic deodorant tank! If you'd want to play against me with something as cool as that I'd be more than happy to comply.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'll bring the plastic spoons.  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 May 2016 21:02:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ JamesY]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There is a difference between being a low clearance hover vehicle and a Skimmer.  Skimmers are halfway to being a helicopter, being able to move over buildings as such.  Low clearance hover like in that tank or our current hovercraft tech, would be fine as just a basic Vehicle.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 May 2016 21:45:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Charistoph]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Astartes Grav Tank?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I have built several Hover Tanks for my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span>. <br /> <br /> An Exterminator and a Chimera, neither uses the skimmer rules and just plays as a normal unit of their kind, except for having a built in "Dozer Blade" (which I pay for in points of course). <br /> <br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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</div><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> As noted above, fluff wise a skimmer can practically fly, floating around and over things like a helicopter.  <br /> But a Hover tank like most people think off only stays a few feet off the ground and no more. <br /> <br /> Playing as a Predator would be just fine if they are armed as such. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 May 2016 22:47:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Engine of War]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You might be better off using them as Land Speeder counts-as.<br /> <br /> There is a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> variant that is better armed/armored that might be closer to the old Grav attack vehicle.<br /> <br /> Relic Javelin is the name <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 May 2016 12:47:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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