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				<title>[750] - Imperial Fists - NEWBIE - Two options for first list?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Howdy! <br /> <br /> I'm gearing up to build my first army, 750 points of Imperial Fists. I've gotten two roughly comparable lists together as far as number of models and firepower, but with vastly different layouts. I'm going to be playing mainly at my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(38);'>FLGS</span> and their tournaments are all 1500-1850 pts so it'll just be small matches for fun.<br /> <br /> I know the <a href="https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Siege_Assault_Vanguard_Army_List_Update.pdf" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Siege Assault Vanguard</a> is an odd duck among lists, but I like the shields and durability and think it fits in with the IF fluff. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span> list I've posted though would be easier to expand into something competitive later on... Anyways I'd like some input on both as far as how competitive they'd likely be and how well they'd work for a newbie.<br /> <br /> <br /> Combined Arms Detachment:<br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<b>+++ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span> - Pulp Fiction (750pts) +++</b><br /> <br /> <b>++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) (750pts) ++</b><br /> <br /> <b>+ (No Category) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Chapter Tactics *</b> [Imperial Fists]<br /> <br /> <b>+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> (75pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Techmarine (75pts)</b> [Auspex, Power Axe, Servo-arm, Storm Bolter]<br /> <br /> <b>+ Elites (175pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Terminator Squad (175pts)</b> [4x Terminator]<br /> ····<b>Terminator Sergeant</b> [Power Sword, Storm Bolter]<br /> <br /> <b>+ Troops (160pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Tactical Squad (80pts)</b> [Flamer, 4x Space Marines]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine Sergeant</b> [Bolt Pistol, Storm Bolter]<br /> <br /> <b>Tactical Squad (80pts)</b> [Flamer, 4x Space Marines]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine Sergeant</b> [Bolt Pistol, Storm Bolter]<br /> <br /> <b>+ Fast Attack (150pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Land Speeders (150pts)</b><br /> ····<b>Land Speeder</b> [Heavy Bolter, Heavy Flamer]<br /> ····<b>Land Speeder</b> [Heavy Bolter, Heavy Flamer]<br /> ····<b>Land Speeder</b> [Heavy Bolter, Heavy Flamer]<br /> <br /> <b>+ Heavy Support (190pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Devastator Squad (190pts)</b> [Armorium Cherub, 4x Heavy Bolter, 9x Space Marines]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine Sergeant</b> [Bolt Pistol, Signum, Storm Bolter]<br /> <br /> Created with <a href="http://www.battlescribe.net" target="_new" rel="nofollow">BattleScribe</a>
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<b>+++ 750 - SAV (750pts) +++</b><br /> <br /> <b>++ Space Marines: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(751);'>IA10</span> - Siege Assault Vanguard (2013) (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> SAV Siege Assault Vanguard Detachment) (750pts) ++</b><br /> <br /> <b>+ (No Category) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Chapter Tactics</b> [Imperial Fists]<br /> <br /> <b>+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> (135pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Siege Master (135pts)</b> [Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Melta Bombs, Signum, Warlord]<br /> ····<b>Artificer Armour</b> [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades]<br /> <br /> <b>+ Troops (355pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Siege Assault Squad (165pts)</b> [Troops]<br /> ····<b>7x Space Marine</b> [7x Bolt Pistol, 7x Chainsword, 7x Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> ····<b>2x Space Marine w/ Flamer</b> [2x Chainsword, 2x Flamer, 2x Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> ····<b>Veteran Sergeant</b> [Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> <br /> <b>Tactical Squad (190pts)</b> [Siege Mantlets for Squad, Troops]<br /> ····<b>Sergeant</b> [Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> ····<b>9x Space Marine w/ Bolter</b> [9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Bolter, 9x Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> <br /> <b>+ Fast Attack (90pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Assault Squad (90pts)</b> [Jump Packs for Squad]<br /> ····<b>Sergeant</b> [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> ····<b>3x Space Marine</b> [3x Bolt Pistol, 3x Chainsword, 3x Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine w/ Flamer</b> [Chainsword, Flamer, Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> <br /> <b>+ Heavy Support (170pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Predator Tank Squadron (170pts)</b><br /> ····<b>Predator</b> [Autocannon, Dozer Blade, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Storm Bolter]<br /> ····<b>Predator</b> [Autocannon, Dozer Blade, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Storm Bolter]<br /> <br /> Created with <a href="http://www.battlescribe.net" target="_new" rel="nofollow">BattleScribe</a>
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				<title>[750] - Imperial Fists - NEWBIE - Two options for first list?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I think both could benefit from each other, for example the speeders with heavy bolters don't make much sense to me, it's just a platform for 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 5 shots that'll annoy your opponent, and I don't think it'll make its points back. I'd move the preds you put in the 2nd list into the first one because I think they'll do more work for you. The tach marine should also be replaced with a lib <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span> because you'll be able to take advantage of the new marine psychic powers. If you take my advice I'd go first list, but if your strictly choosing one or the other I'd go with the second because it has more bodies, cool factor, and as I said earlier preds. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(442);'>Ps</span> maybe try and get some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span> 2 into the second list.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ ShieldBrother]]></author>
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