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Talon Strike Force
Pinion Demi Company
-1 x Chaplain
-3 x 5 Tactical Squad, Melta, Combi Melta, Drop Pod
-1 x 5 Assault Squad, 2 Flamer, Drop Pod
-1 x 5 Devastator Squad, 4 Grav Cannon, Cherub, Drop Pod
-2 x 3 Scout Bikes, Locator Beacon

Shadowstrike Kill Team
-2 x 5 Vanguard Veterans, Jump Pack, 1 Storm Shield, 6 Lightning Claw
-2 x 5 Scouts, Sniper Rifle

Command
-1 x Cataphractii Terminator Captain, 2 x Lightning Claws

1488 Points


If you understand the rule nuances of the Talon Strike Force, I think it becomes pretty clear how this army plays.

Thoughts?


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8642529.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8642529.page GMT Re:[1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force On the other hand, your Scouts (scout bikers and the footslog scouts) are going to be the primary target number of enemy firepower if you don't get to go first, this is specifically a problem when considering all your other units are in Droppod or deepstrike by Jump pack.
Imho, you could consider taking Scouts with camo cloaks, instead of locator beacon biker or sniper rifle. When getting shot, just GtG in ruin and take 2+ cover. Just stay away from D Scythes, Heavy flamers, and Baleflamer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8642719.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8642719.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force
who are you running your captain with?

I don't know much about this formation so I am going to have to look it up, but figure I ask some questions since I am reading this lol.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8643530.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8643530.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force
The Captain joins the Devastator Marines. He gives the unit Slow and Purposeful.

Assault Marines don't come with Jump Packs automatically. You can buy a drop pod if they don't have jump packs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8644446.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8644446.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8644666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8644666.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8644877.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8644877.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force
Wouldn't the assault squad be better deepstriking in with jumppacks? they'll still come in turn 1 won't they?

I think i'm gonna use mine to eat overwatch for the vanguard vets.

I'm thinking i would probably be better off with a few droppods as well then, cheers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8644906.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8644906.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force
I looked hard at Skyhammer. You lose some command benefits, specifically the option to pass or fail Morale. Not horrible, but there are trade offs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8645216.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8645216.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force
The Captain joins the Devastator Marines. He gives the unit Slow and Purposeful.

Assault Marines don't come with Jump Packs automatically. You can buy a drop pod if they don't have jump packs.


So the Captain is pretty much there to protect them from getting killed if the enemy units get to close

I know Assault Marines don't come with Jump Packs automatically but I figure most people normally would run them with jump packs. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8646286.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8646286.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force
 The_Lion wrote:
The Captain joins the Devastator Marines. He gives the unit Slow and Purposeful.

Assault Marines don't come with Jump Packs automatically. You can buy a drop pod if they don't have jump packs.


So the Captain is pretty much there to protect them from getting killed if the enemy units get to close

I know Assault Marines don't come with Jump Packs automatically but I figure most people normally would run them with jump packs.


That special Terminator armor also grants the whole Squad SnP]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8646851.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8646851.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8647676.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8647676.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force
 Sarigar wrote:
Exactly. And the Scout Biker Sergeant grants the same unit Ignore Cover. This is what will kill a Wraithknight on Turn 1 if opponents actually deploy it.


I noticed that by my first site, the Captain and Dev Squad and Scouts in the TSF is the great and brutal combo, combined with the Shadow Strike Kill team actually made up a pseudo Skyhammer Annihilation Formation.
Anyway, just watch out other null-deploy army, and Eldar Aspect Warrior Host with 15+ Warp Spiders, and you should do ok against other army.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8648405.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8648405.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force
Neophyte2012 wrote:
 The_Lion wrote:
The Captain joins the Devastator Marines. He gives the unit Slow and Purposeful.

Assault Marines don't come with Jump Packs automatically. You can buy a drop pod if they don't have jump packs.


So the Captain is pretty much there to protect them from getting killed if the enemy units get to close

I know Assault Marines don't come with Jump Packs automatically but I figure most people normally would run them with jump packs.


That special Terminator armor also grants the whole Squad SnP



didn't realize until after I looked up SnP lol. Nice ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8648678.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8648678.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force
Neophyte2012 wrote:
 Sarigar wrote:
Exactly. And the Scout Biker Sergeant grants the same unit Ignore Cover. This is what will kill a Wraithknight on Turn 1 if opponents actually deploy it.


I noticed that by my first site, the Captain and Dev Squad and Scouts in the TSF is the great and brutal combo, combined with the Shadow Strike Kill team actually made up a pseudo Skyhammer Annihilation Formation.
Anyway, just watch out other null-deploy army, and Eldar Aspect Warrior Host with 15+ Warp Spiders, and you should do ok against other army.


A null deploy army can be a tactical challenge. I am a long time Eldar player, which helps me understand the threats Eldar armies possess.

Thanks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8649535.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8649535.page GMT Re:[1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force 40k ravens I give them out like tictacs and get my points back EVERY GAME. All my tactical sergeants, scout sergeants, my assault srg and chappy get one and I will use at least 4-5 every game. Either vehicle or MC I always have something that can hurt it.

That's really all I have. I combo my outflanking grav cannons with white scars bikes toting grav guns and a libby with the hunter's eye. Dirty combo, but it gives me more board control with the randomness of outflank. Acute senses helps mitigate that a bit, but I have killed riptides and a stormsurge turn 1 with the grav cannons and ignores cover lascannons as well.

Only other thing you'll struggle with is flyers. I run the raptor wing to mitigate that. Not 100% flyer defense but they do serious work vs non av12 flyers lol

my 2 cents.

Any games scheduled soon?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8650577.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8650577.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force
At 1500 points, I do lack anti air: really no way to avoid without a complete rebuild of the list. At 1850, the Raptor Wing is the formation I am most likely to add.

The Chaplain is pretty much a tax unit. I think I can squeeze out some points to make room for Melts Bombs on the Chaplain. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8651308.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8651308.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8651334.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8651334.page GMT Re:[1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force
 Castellan Alaric wrote:
Looks solid Sarigar. I feel like you have a solid idea of what you want from this list and you'll get it done. Chappy with the assault marines? I might find 5 points for a melta bomb. With my 40k ravens I give them out like tictacs and get my points back EVERY GAME. All my tactical sergeants, scout sergeants, my assault srg and chappy get one and I will use at least 4-5 every game. Either vehicle or MC I always have something that can hurt it.

That's really all I have. I combo my outflanking grav cannons with white scars bikes toting grav guns and a libby with the hunter's eye. Dirty combo, but it gives me more board control with the randomness of outflank. Acute senses helps mitigate that a bit, but I have killed riptides and a stormsurge turn 1 with the grav cannons and ignores cover lascannons as well.

Only other thing you'll struggle with is flyers. I run the raptor wing to mitigate that. Not 100% flyer defense but they do serious work vs non av12 flyers lol

my 2 cents.

Any games scheduled soon?


Please share this stinky cheese list so I can copy and finally beat the space elf and fish boy filth ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8652398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8652398.page GMT [1500] - Space Marine - Talon Strike Force
I am torn between that and building a Bike Command squad and another Scout bike unit into an 1850 list. The Raptor Wing is pretty clear cut, but the Command Squad would Outflank with Grav and the Scout bikers grant it Ignore Cover.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8654785.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690275/8654785.page GMT