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				<title>[1500] - Black Templar</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ This is going to be my list built for a league.  They have restricted it to no Super Heavies or Lords of War.  From what I have heard there are going to be several newer players in this league, but I also know there will be plenty of veteran players. (some of them are very competitive) Now, I don't know if the lists will be fixed when it starts or if they allow for little changes from the main body of it.  But as of right now, this is what I have.<br /> <br /> <br /> ++<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>++<br /> <br /> The Emperor's Champion- 140<br /> <br /> ++Troops++<br /> <br /> Crusader Squad- 520<br /> x9 Initates w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>, Meltagun, Power Axe <br /> x5 Neophytes w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span><br /> x1 Sword Brother w/ x2 Lightning Claws, Melta Bombs<br /> -Land Raider Crusader w/ Multi-Melta <br /> <br /> Crusader Squad- 175 <br /> x5 Initiates w/ Bolters, Meltagun, Multi-Melta <br /> x5 Neophytes w/ Bolters<br /> -Drop Pod <br /> <br /> Crusader Squad- 129 <br /> x6 Initiates w/ Bolters, Plasma gun, Lascannon <br /> x1 Neophyte w/ Bolter <br /> <br /> ++Fast Attack++<br /> <br /> Bike Squad- 150<br /> x4 Bikes w/ x2 Grav-guns <br /> x1 Sergeant w/ combi-grav and melta bombs <br /> <br /> Drop Pod- 35 <br /> <br /> ++Heavy Support++<br /> <br /> Thunderfire Cannon- 100<br /> <br /> Centurion Devastator Squad- 260<br /> x2 Centurions w/ Grav-cannons <br /> x1 Sergeant w/ Grav-cannon and Omniscope   <br /> <br /> 1499 Points total ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ EmperorsChampion]]></author>
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				<title>[1500] - Black Templar</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ good list. love the hidden power axe in your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> squad! one of the best perks that you can give to that squad!!<br /> <br /> I have a few suggestions tho. <br /> <br /> why put the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> and melta in the drop pod squad?  i get that melta is huge in the meta right now but that squad is going to be focused right away like all drop squads that need to be that close to punch. For the exact same points you can swap for a 5 man stern guard squad with 3 combi meltas and they still all get the SIA. I understand that 10 guys &gt; 5 guys but when half of the 10 cant take saves from bolters that squad looks like it likes to run away. <br /> <br /> that last 7 man squad with the heavy weps seems a bit out of place, one good large blast and that squad is gimped. for their points and the lone drop pods points you can take a vindcator or a real 5 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad with any weps you want. Take just reg missiles and you could add a man to your bike squad. Alternatively you could go with a dread in that drop pod with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> and power fist with a Melta. <br /> <br /> adding a little more specialized punch to this list or another Tank/dread could make this list a true contender for top 3.  <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 May 2016 17:04:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ death_scythe]]></author>
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				<title>[1500] - Black Templar</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/7ba58435cb484cec16f059d3a573a7d3.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690299/8643261.page"><b>death_scythe wrote:</b></a><br/>good list. love the hidden power axe in your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> squad! one of the best perks that you can give to that squad!!<br /> <br /> I have a few suggestions tho. <br /> <br /> why put the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> and melta in the drop pod squad?  i get that melta is huge in the meta right now but that squad is going to be focused right away like all drop squads that need to be that close to punch. For the exact same points you can swap for a 5 man stern guard squad with 3 combi meltas and they still all get the SIA. I understand that 10 guys &gt; 5 guys but when half of the 10 cant take saves from bolters that squad looks like it likes to run away. <br /> <br /> that last 7 man squad with the heavy weps seems a bit out of place, one good large blast and that squad is gimped. for their points and the lone drop pods points you can take a vindcator or a real 5 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad with any weps you want. Take just reg missiles and you could add a man to your bike squad. Alternatively you could go with a dread in that drop pod with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> and power fist with a Melta. <br /> <br /> adding a little more specialized punch to this list or another Tank/dread could make this list a true contender for top 3.  <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> First off, thanks for taking the time to look at my list.  <br /> <br /> Now that you bring it up, you are right about the odd 6 man crusader squad, I can't be just throwing a random unit in the list to fill points.  129 points can go a long way at 1.5k.  But, I can't drop both small crusader squads as I still need 2 troop choices.  <br /> <br /> Options for dropping the 175 point drop pod crusader squad-<br /> <br /> Command Squad- 175<br /> x4 Marines w/ x3 combi-melta and or meltagun, 1 melta bomb <br /> x1 Apothecary <br /> - Drop Pod <br /> <br /> Sternguard Veteran Squad- 175<br /> x4 Marines w/ x3 combi-melta<br /> x1 Sergeant<br /> -Drop Pod <br /> <br /> <br /> Now the 6 man Las/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>Plas</span> crusader squad worth 129 points... (My list is sitting at 1499)<br /> <br /> Vanguard Veteran Squad- 130 Points <br /> x4 Veterans w/ x2 Power Swords<br /> x1 Sergeant w/ Power Sword <br /> Jump Packs <br /> <br /> Dreadnought- 135<br /> w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span><br /> -Drop Pod<br /> (The only way I can squeeze this guy in is by dropping 5 points in the list which isn't very hard to do.) <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Also, I did some reworking on the 129 point squad and was able to get some more bodies out of it.<br /> <br /> Crusader Squad- 130 <br /> x5 marines w/ Bolters, Missile Launcher, Flamer <br /> x4 Neophytes w/ Bolters <br /> <br /> Crusader Squad- 130 <br /> x5 Marines w/ Bolters, Flamer<br /> -Razorback w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Heavy Bolters <br /> <br /> Though I think the top one would be better. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 May 2016 17:55:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ EmperorsChampion]]></author>
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				<title>[1500] - Black Templar</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The command squad is the best option i think. 5 bodies with 3 meltas and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> will put the hurt on any back field. <br /> <br /> A quick Question tho, what is the lone Drop pod in your fast attack for? in my first set of rec's i took that out and used the points on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> and vindcator. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>TBH</span> i dont see a empty <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> helping this list at all even if it had the missile upgrade. <br /> <br /> I, for one, always run a Tankard in my army. Dread with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> with a heavy Flamer in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span>, i feel like if your going to take the Comand squad in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> a 2x melta Dread will really do nasty things along side your comand squad. <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 May 2016 19:31:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The drop pod is used for my centurions and I think I'm going to use the command squad option.  Thanks for the tips!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 May 2016 22:04:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ EmperorsChampion]]></author>
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				<title>[1500] - Black Templar</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ This is what I have decided on.<br /> <br /> ++<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>++<br /> <br /> The Emperor's Champion- 140<br /> <br /> ++Troops++<br /> <br /> Crusader Squad- 520 x9 Initates w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>, Meltagun, Power Axe x5 Neophytes w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span> x1 Sword Brother w/ x2 Lightning Claws, Melta Bombs -Land Raider Crusader w/ Multi-Melta<br /> <br /> Crusader Squad- 135 x5 Initiates w/ Bolters, Meltagun -Razorback w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span><br /> <br /> ++Elites++<br /> <br /> Command Squad- 200 x4 Bikes w/ x3 Grav-guns, x1 storm shield, x1 Meltabomb x1 Apothecary -Bikes<br /> <br /> ++Fast Attack++<br /> <br /> Drop Pod- 35<br /> <br /> ++Heavy Support++<br /> <br /> Thunderfire Cannon- 100<br /> <br /> Centurion Devastator Squad- 260 x2 Centurions w/ Grav-cannons x1 Sergeant w/ Grav-cannon and Omniscope<br /> <br /> Vindicator- 125<br /> <br /> 1500 Points total<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 May 2016 10:44:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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