deffrekka wrote:
Thats a great list Ihadrabies!

Couple of things id personally change, the stormraven, in my past experience they are a death trap, if it gets popped chances are the guys inside are gonna get gibbed :( which is bad when your warlords in there, instead add termie armour to your libby (so he can deepstrike and gives him an invun) that way you can just deep strike your terminators in instead, no need for a 200pt flyer to get them to the same position :p

another thing with your independent characters, add asupex's there so good for there 5pts there always an auto include for my marine lists! does cassor the damned do anything special?

and to build apon just using the termies to deepstrike add a jump pack to the priest so he can go down with them, with the points spare from the raven take a flame baal pred or 2 if you can.

Other than that i like the melta spam ;D

 deffrekka wrote:
Thats a great list Ihadrabies!

Couple of things id personally change, the stormraven, in my past experience they are a death trap, if it gets popped chances are the guys inside are gonna get gibbed :( which is bad when your warlords in there, instead add termie armour to your libby (so he can deepstrike and gives him an invun) that way you can just deep strike your terminators in instead, no need for a 200pt flyer to get them to the same position :p

another thing with your independent characters, add asupex's there so good for there 5pts there always an auto include for my marine lists! does cassor the damned do anything special?

and to build apon just using the termies to deepstrike add a jump pack to the priest so he can go down with them, with the points spare from the raven take a flame baal pred or 2 if you can.

Other than that i like the melta spam ;D

 niv-mizzet wrote:
-Raphen's DC is an inefficiently loaded out squad. It's cheaper to take both another "efficient" 140 point jump DC (5 men, 1 fist) and replace the troop slot with outflanking scouts than it is to bring Raphen and his wargear-crazy buddies. Granted you're maxed on elite slots, but you could always take something else.

-give the ASM sarges in pods either combi meltas or double inferno. Just taking 1 seems wasteful.

-I actually approve of th-ss termies in stormravens. It's nice that even in a crash, 1 of them won't be wounded and 2/3 of the rest will live. I know fnp is nice on them, but the risk of a crash instagibbing both of your HQ's is heart-stopping. I'd probably go for putting the Libby in termie armor and giving him a shield too. It'd be nice if you could take a priest in termie armor, but GW decided to omit that option in this codex...the jerks.

-assault cannon over lascannon on the Raven. You can look up the math elsewhere, but long story short, the asc is just better.

-Cassor goes better in a Raven than a pod. He doesn't like stepping out, firing a single melta shot, and then getting shot back. Bonus in that it saves 35 points and gives you another FA slot. More meltacide ASM?

-Not wild about only having 15-20 no-transport marines out at deployment (assuming they go first.) Seems like unnecessary sacrifice giving the enemy something to shoot at while you wait for your army. With pods you have turn 1 board presence, therefore being able to null deploy, and making some changes you could fill a troop slot with a podded heavy flamer tac squad just to get more bodies out so you don't get tabled going first. After that, you just need to roll hot on reserves...

-...reserve rolls! The cantankerous little things. With an asset like that Raven, you need rerollable reserves. Dante's wl trait would let you reroll the Raven and DC if they deep strike, as well as reduce their scatter. Karlaen would give rerolls all around, or you could take veritas vitae and roll 2 strategic traits hoping to get reroll reserves off of it. Lastly, thar be some out of codex options like Damocles rhino and the fortification comms array. I highly recommend doing one of those. I'm a fan of the Dante choice, as he can come in shielded by DC, then split off and wreck things by himself.

That's all I got.