Ant85 wrote:
The_Lion - That is a good question. I have found that I need some form of long range support to attempt to take out his marker lights. It is my hope that I can put a good amount of pressure on his drones or pathfinders with this weapon. That said, I've been recommended by several folks that cannon can do just that.

Also I thought to take a 5 man tac squad so I could further claim objectives with the razorback while hopefully picking off targets.

Do you honestly think Crassor the Damned is the way to go? Would he replace a 5 man DC if you were doing it?

Ant85 wrote:
The gentleman I will be facing has always used an additional supplement for his Tau .. something conclaive? Through our texting banter, I've picked up that I will most likely be facing 2 riptides. /sigh. So, I've taken your comments and have devised the following list:

HQ
Chaplin - Jump Pack
Librarian lvl 2 - Jump Pack

Elites
Command Squad x5 - Jump Packs
Death Company x5 - Jump, 1 PF
Death Company x5 - Jump, 1 PF

Troops
Cassor the Damned (rides in SR)
Scouts Squad x5 - Camo Cloaks, Shot Guns
Tactical Troop x10 - 1 Melta, 1 Heavy Bolter
- Dedicated Transport: Rhino

Fast Attack
Assault Squad x5 - 2x Meltagun, Combi-Meta, Jump Packs
Assault Squad x5 - 2x Meltagun, Combi-Meta Jump Packs

Heavy Support
Sicaran Battle Tank - Accelerator Autocannon, Heavy Bolter sponsons, Armoured Ceremite (ignore melta rule)
Stormraven Gunship - Twinlinked Assault Cannon, Twin-linked Multi-melta

Lord of War
Dante

Dante with Command squad to get Feel No Pain; arrive deep strike. Librarian with 5 DC to foot slog on turn 1, playing defensive. Assault Squad looks for Tau Broadsides with melta guns, while being moble enough to threaten a charge at a riptide after. Best case they pop things turn 2, then tie up riptide for a turn or two. Stormraven arrives and hopefully puts some lead into something, looking to unload DC and Chaplain to ideally take down a Riptide. Cassor too. Just depends. I will be using a proxy for the sicaran as I do want to purchase one in the future. My opponent is aware and is ok with this. Use this to pop those annoying jinked vehicles and to possibly put wounds in Riptide. Will prioritize combat suits as usually he brings the Buff-mander.

What do you think? I worry I won't have enough troops capping objectives.

Ant85 wrote:
The_Lion - Yes, I will combat squad the tactical squad. Ideally, I'll book-it to one objective then make my way to another. I also plan on putting a fair amount of objectives closer together than our normal even-spread method . It's only recently I've discovered that this favors me over shooty armies who want me spread out.

I am not positive the Sanguinary Guard are the answer. First off, Dante will cause fear, so why would I need 5 other guys to do the same? Also, the Tau aren't known for great close combat. I feel the SG are a bit overkill. Also, taking a Command Squad means I do not need to take a Sanguinary Priest for FNP as they come with it.

As Martel suggests, maybe giving storm shields to the command squad will increase my survive-ability with Dante, but that is only if I am charging the riptide with the insane 12 shot gun or those annoying rifles that get AP 2 at close range. I feel the Dante is there more to be a bully than to actually chase Riptides. If the opportunity presents itself, sure, why not. But his presence can make my opponent weary to come close to my objectives - that and he can tank a gak ton of damage. All this mixed with every squad, semi-accurately, coming in on turn 2 due to Decent of Angels, I plan to hold a portion of the board where these objectives will be camped. I effectively keep my guys from being shot at for a whole 5th of the game - assuming 5 rounds.

The Assault Marines will attempt to pop transports. However, they will first prioritize Broadsides. Melta guns insta-kill Broadsides due to Str 8. It is my hope that by turn 3, I can be in a position to charge Cassor or DC from the Raven at a Riptide, while using the Assault Marines as the initial chargers (if any survive turn 2). that's why the ASM have jump packs instead of using a drop pod. So that if they survive turn 2, they have a better chance to get the Riptide in CC. My opponent has always been super lucky with his jetpack assault moves it's gross.

I feel confident in this list you all helped me create. Not to change subject, but I did devise a new list with a slightly different aim. That of putting everything in transports as much as possible. If you think this will be better, please let me know:

HQ

Librarian
Auspex, Gallian's Staff, Psyker (ML2), The Crown Angelic

Elites

7 Death Company Squad 2x pf

Troops

Cassor the Damned
Scout Squad - Camo Cloaks, 5x Shotgun
Tactical Squad - Heavy Bolter, Rhino
Tactical Squad - Heavy Bolter, Rhino

Fast Attack

Assault Squad - 2x plasma pistols, Rhino
Assault Squad - 2x plasma pistols, Rhino
Bike Squad - 2x Grav-gun,
--- Attack Bike - Heavy Bolter

Heavy Support

Sicaran Battle Tank - Extra Armour, Hull-mounted Heavy Bolter, Ceremite plating
Stormraven Gunship - Extra Armour, Twin Linked Assault Cannon, Twin-linked Multi-melta

LOW

Knight Paladin - Heavy Stubber, Cannon, Ironstorm Missle Pod, Reaper Chainsword


Obviously, DC, Librarian and Cassor go in Stormraven. Melta on Assault Marines are changed to Plamsa as I know he likes to use crisis suits to Deep Strike. Similar to our Melta-cide squads. I this the second list will do more damage initially. But I've not really played with my fully painted Dante and I feel like i have not done him justice. Anyways, thoughts on which is more tactically sound? Despite all these long posts, I am still pretty green in this game. I feel like I do not know what I a doing!