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				<description><![CDATA[ So here are two lists I plan on building. Has been edited.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <u>List 1  -  Flesh Tearers Strike Force</u><br /> <br /> Chaplain  -  115<br /> Angels Wings<br /> <br /> 3 x 5 x Death Company  -  420<br /> 3 x Power fists<br /> Jump Packs<br /> <br /> 2 x 5 x Tactical Squad  -  260<br /> 2 x Heavy Flamer<br /> 2 x Meltabombs<br /> 2 x Rhinos<br /> <br /> 4 x 5 x Assault Squad  -  540<br /> 4 x 2 x Meltaguns<br /> 4 x Combi-meltas<br /> 4 x Rhinos<br /> <br /> 2 x 5 x Assault Squad  -  250<br /> 2 x 2 x Flamers<br /> 2 x 2 x Flamer Pistols<br /> 2 x Rhinos<br /> <br /> 5 x Devastators  -  150<br /> 4 x Lascannons<br /> <br /> 5 x Devastators  -  110<br /> 4 x Multi Meltas<br /> <br /> Callidus Assassin  -  145<br /> <br /> <br /> Free Rhinos for all assault squads. Chaplain arrives from reserves with the three squads of Death Company.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <u>List 2  -  Blood Angels Strike Force</u><br /> <br /> Chaplain  -  90<br /> <br /> 10 x Death Company  -  265<br /> 2 x Powerfists<br /> Power Axe<br /> <br /> 2 x 10 x Death Company  -  450<br /> 2 x Powerfists<br /> <br /> 3 x 5 x Tactical Squad  -  375<br /> 3 x Heavy Flamers<br /> 3 x Rhinos<br /> <br /> Spartan Assault Tank  -  330<br /> Heavy Flamer<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Heavy Flamer<br /> <br /> Land Raider Redeemer  -  240<br /> <br /> Land Raider Crusader  -  250<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Death Company Squads take a Land Raider each. Chaplain joins the squad with two powerfists.]]></description>
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				<title>[1850] - Blood Angels Double Sanguine Wing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Errrr...there's just a slight problem.  You'll lose automatically at the end of turn 1.<br /> <br /> The formation forces you to deep strike the vanguard and have the sternguard ride the Ravens, which start in reserve by virtue of being flyers.  They don't have any special rule allowing a turn 1 entrance.  :(]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 13 May 2016 00:02:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>[1850] - Blood Angels Double Sanguine Wing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ah well Ill edit this later then.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 13 May 2016 00:05:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't think this list would be very competitive using Double Sanguine Wing.  Its nice with all the fire power and assault but you really don't have any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> or other support units.<br /> <br /> I would look at either running a Baal Strike Force or if you want look at running an Archangel demi-company (I think thats what its called). if you want to run the 1st company.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 13 May 2016 14:53:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>2000  -  Flesh Tearers/Blood Angels Strike Force (2 Lists) </title>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 May 2016 15:42:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>2000  -  Flesh Tearers/Blood Angels Strike Force (2 Lists) </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/690709/8663190.page"><b>WinterInAshes wrote:</b></a><br/>Thread has been updated.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> lmao <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> I can see that now after I had posted my comments <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span> <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> .<br /> <br /> I think what you have now is much better list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 May 2016 17:04:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The_Lion]]></author>
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				<title>2000  -  Flesh Tearers/Blood Angels Strike Force (2 Lists) </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ List 1:<br /> -Not wild about filling rhinos to the brim with full <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> and characters.  They aren't assault vehicles, so you have to stand around for a turn after getting out before you can charge, including if you got shot out of it.<br /> <br /> -corbulo with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> is sort of a waste.  They have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>fnp</span> already, so he's just giving them a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span>/I boost.<br /> <br /> -the ton of rhinos with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSU</span> shooty squads is a decent approach.  In terms of competitive play you're being outdone by gladius strike forces by virtue of their superior formation bonuses, but if your scene doesn't run formations then all the better.<br /> <br /> -Don't forget that callidus can outflank and come from the enemy deployment edge.  It's a nice scare tactic that can get an opponent to deploy units a wee bit closer to your army.<br /> <br /> I'd say <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSU</span> down those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> units, drop corbulo and probably Seth, and snag some sternguard and maybe a cheap Libby with MOAR rhinos or pods.  Also a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad using heavy flamer in a rhino isn't bad either considering the rhino-saturation level you've reached.<br /> <br /> List 2:<br /> <br /> -dual land raider rush eh?  Well land raiders are hard countered by haywire, grav, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> D, suicide melta, and many other things, so some games will just have you one foot in the grave at the start, but let's assume you're alright with that and move on.<br /> <br /> -I don't think the chap needs termie armor.  Adding that means the unit can't sweep, which could be very significant if you get up to a tau gunline and multiassault.<br /> <br /> -speaking of multiassaulting, vanguard veterans can do that.  Putting a priest with them will make them just as stout as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span>, albeit without rage.  It would be better if we had access to the core marine book <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(671);'>VV</span>'s that have discounted weapons.  I find iron hands <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(671);'>VV</span>'s with a sanguinary priest to be downright scary.  Just something to consider.  Nothing wrong with keeping the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span>.<br /> <br /> -not a fan of the meltas on the land raiders.  They're going to be full speed-ing turn 1, and they dont have any rules other than machine spirit to enable firing of multiple weapons, so I find the melta points spent better elsewhere.<br /> <br /> -Vindicaire assassin is sadly terrible.  Many targets that he wants to hit aren't regularly played, and with just one shot he basically just does .75 wound a turn.  It can be good based on where you put it, but it's probably not "150 points" good.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 May 2016 19:14:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the feedback, Ive edited both lists and added a spartan assault tank to the second list, for 3 land raiders.]]></description>
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