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This a an early draft, with a 100% victory score (against a knight). Help me tune the list before I paint it up. Of note I want to mention that my HQ is lacking, as he doesn't have much of a purpose.

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Primary Detachment: Codex Space Marines - Combined Arms Detachment, Iron Hands chapter tactics
Second Detachment: Codex Astra Militarum - Emperors Wrath Artillery Company

SM IH CAD (1065)
HQ1: Captain (90), warlord, artificer armour(20), power sword(15), stormshield(15)[140]
Troop1: 5 tacticals(70), melta(10), combi-melta(10). Drop pod(35)[125]
Troop2: 5 tacticals(70), melta(10), combi-melta(10). Drop pod(35)[125]
Troop3: 5 tacticals(70), melta(10), combi-melta(10). Drop pod(35)[125]
Fast1: Drop pod [35]
Fast2: Drop pod [35]
Heavy1: 3 centurion devastators(165), 3 grav cannons(75)[240]
Heavy2: 3 centurion devastators(165), 3 grav cannons(75)[240]

AM Emperors Wrath Artillery Company (785)
Company command squad(60), vox caster (5). Chimera(65)[130]
1 enginseer [40]
2 basilisks [250]
3 wyverns [195]
1 manticore [170]

Total: 1850]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691444/8666122.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691444/8666122.page GMT
If you're going full on competitive pods you could try and include a skyhammer force to pile on the first turn pressure? Losing one cent squad, one tac pod, and a basilisk would get you something like this:

Assault marines with melta bomb 90pts
Assault marines with melta bomb 90pts
Dev squad in pod with 3 grav cannons 210pts
Dev squad in pod with 4 multi meltas 145pts

Your list does seem good as it is though ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691444/8666279.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691444/8666279.page GMT
Their real task were to blow up SM bike command squads or Ravenwing black knights.

Your libby suggestion is easy to implement and I will try that out. The skyhammer is more difficult as grav cannons are $$$

Thanks for helping me out.


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Any ideas as to how the force can function as IH? I suspect it would require Fist of Medusa and a command squad. Can it be done without bikes, or are they a given?

For now I try to write the list as White Scars because hit and run and hunter's eye is superior to anything else, but feels sort of cheating.


Primary Detachment: Codex Space Marines - Combined Arms Detachment, White Scars chapter tactics
Second Detachment: Codex Astra Militarum - Emperors Wrath Artillery Comp

SM WS CAD (1035)
HQ1: Librarian(65), mastery level 2(25), Hunter's Eye(20).[110]
Troop1: 5 tacticals(70), melta(10), combi-melta(10). Drop pod(35)[125]
Troop2: 5 tacticals(70), melta(10), combi-melta(10). Drop pod(35)[125]
Troop3: 5 tacticals(70), melta(10), combi-melta(10). Drop pod(35)[125]
Fast1: Drop pod [35]
Fast2: Drop pod [35]
Heavy1: 3 centurion devastators(165), 3 grav cannons(75)[240]
Heavy2: 3 centurion devastators(165), 3 grav cannons(75)[240]

AM Emperors Wrath Artillery Company (720)
Company command squad(60), vox caster (5). Chimera(65)[130]
1 enginseer [40]
2 basilisks [250]
2 wyverns [130]
1 manticore [170]

Total 1755 points
leaving 95 to spend on wild stuff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691444/8666766.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691444/8666766.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691444/8667540.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691444/8667540.page GMT

As I have aegis in my collection the choice is obvious.

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Primary Detachment: Codex Space Marines - Combined Arms Detachment, White Scars chapter tactics
Second Detachment: Codex Astra Militarum - Emperors Wrath Artillery Comp

SM WS CAD (1110)
HQ1: Librarian(65), mastery level 2(25), Hunter's Eye(20), force sword(0).[110]
Troop1: 5 tacticals(70), melta(10), combi-melta(10), melta bomb(5). Drop pod(35)[130]
Troop2: 5 tacticals(70), melta(10), combi-melta(10). Drop pod(35)[125]
Troop3: 5 tacticals(70), melta(10), combi-melta(10). Drop pod(35)[125]
Fast1: Drop pod [35]
Fast2: Drop pod [35]
Heavy1: 3 centurion devastators(165), 3 grav cannons(75)[240]
Heavy2: 3 centurion devastators(165), 3 grav cannons(75)[240]
Fortification: Aegis defense line(50), comms relay(20)[70]

AM Emperors Wrath Artillery Company (740)
Company command squad(60), master of the fleet(20), vox caster (5). Chimera(65)[150]
1 enginseer [40]
2 basilisks [250]
2 wyverns [130]
1 manticore [170]

Total 1850 points

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Currently the list is well suited to handle heavy armour, my intention is to be able to handle bikes as my meta is heavy with them. And ideally it should at least have tools against warpspiders, preferably be able to win a match against them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691444/8667681.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691444/8667681.page GMT