http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net imo; CSM. I also wanted to try different models out so I decided to go for Chaos Daemons as an Allied detachment.

As i'm strapped for cash I can't go around buying a Transport for each unit nor can I afford to drop 200$+ on a new (and probably more effective) list,

Chaos Space Marines:
(HQ)
Chaos Lord of Khorne, Juggernaut, VotLW, Gift of Mutation, Sigil of Corruption with a Power Maul and Bolt Pistol as his Weapons,
(His model is converted from a Space Marine Commander as he has been a Renegade for several hundred years but has just now fallen to the taint of Chaos)

(Elite)
8x Chaos Chosen, Nurgle with IoD, VotLW
-Champion: Power Maul, Combi-Melta and a Gift of Mutation (I don't know if i'm legally allowed to have a Combi-Weapon and a CCW on the same model?)
-3x Melta Guns
-1x Plasma Gun
-1x Lascannon
-3x Bolters

8x Noise Marines, Icon of Excess and VotLW and a Rhino
-Champion: Power Sword, Plasma Pistol, Doom Siren, Melta Bombs and a Gift of Mutation
-1x Blastmaster
-7x Sonic Blasters
-1x Rhino with Dirge casters and Havoc Launchers

(Troops)
9x Cultists

10x Chaos Space Marines, Slaanesh with IoE.
-1x Champion: Powerfist, Plasma Pistol, Melta bombs and a Gift of Mutation
-1x Heavy Bolter
-1x Plasma Gun
-3x Swap Boltgun for CCW
-7x take an CCW

(Fast Attack)
4x Warp Talons, Khornate, VotLW and a single Gift of Mutation
(these guys are heavily converted GK Interceptors, they're not Fallen Grey Knights but are Warp Talons that wear the Armor of a Grey Knight's corpse)

+ Chaos Demon Allies
(As I don't own nor know the contents of the Daemon codex right now(going off of Batreps and guides), this is a huge shot in the dark on what to equip my units with)

(HQ)
Keeper of Secrets, Mark of Excess, Psyker lvl 3, 1 Exalted and 1 Greater reward

(Troops)
10x Pink Horrors, Icon of Chaos, Instrument of Chaos
-1x Iridescent Horror

(Heavy Support)
Seeker Cavalcade
1x Seeker Chariot


Most of these models I have bought over the course of a year (I'm just a poor student ) but some of these are still up in the air, I'd also like some tactical/strategical help on what to do with this list and what I should be looking for on the table, any advice to this newbie Tournie player with this Patchwerk list?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691462/8666494.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691462/8666494.page GMT
Your CSM look a bit muddled.
Lord is a beatstick - fine.
Chosen have a long range heavy weapon, a mid-long range assault weapon and two very close range assault weapons - they don't have a role. They need to either be all close range or all long range, because otherwise part of your unit is useless in all situations.
For all of your units I think you've spent far too much on your unit champions. They'll get killed too easily for you to be spending 45+ points on all of them, so cut down on the pistols and Gifts and Melta Bombs, they won't do much and they are very expensive when you add them all up. This inefficiency will lose you games, I've done it before and I can guarantee it'll happen to you if you aren't careful with your spending.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691462/8671467.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691462/8671467.page GMT
I am going to add in that your noise marines dont need to all take sonic blasters and a blastmaster and a rhino. With noise marines you will want to sit as far back as possible with the blastmaster hitting people. I would min squad them, 5 in a rhino with a blastmaster, rest with stock things.

Lord on jugg alone with no support is dead in the water, also power maul is mediocre on a beatstick like him.

Your regular CSM unit is way over costed. IOE is not going to do well on a t4 unit. WIth so many things able to double them out. A heavy bolter will be close to useless on them, and i seriously doubt they will get in CC. Add on to that when your kitted out squad runs away because they are not fearless. Regular CSM are absoultely one of the worst units in the CSM codex.

Warp talons will die before they do a single thing, simple as that.

I think you need to do some list reworking, and get a daemon codex to see what you want to do. The list is all over the place as someone said.

Also, not a great idea for your first tournament to be a more serious format (ITC). Maybe try and find a local tournament if possible?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691462/8672064.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691462/8672064.page GMT