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So I'm getting back to the hobby after 8 years off and I recently bought the Horus Heresy box and am planning on getting some Dracothian Guard to convert into bikes.
I am planning on painting up 500 points and build from there.

What do you think? What are the strenghts and weaknesses of this list? Should I change anything?
Looking forward in getting back to the hobby and the painting is going nicely.

Imperial Fists CAD

Librarian: lvl 2, The Bones of Osrak* 115.p (Crimson Fists traits)

4x Bikes: 2x Grav Guns 114.p

5x Tactical Marines: Missile Launcher 85.p

5x Tactical Marines: Missile Launcher 85.p

5x Devestator Marines: 3x Heavy Bolters 100.p

499.p

*The Bones of Osrak
Gives a Librarian one extra warp charge and allows the re-roll of failed psychic tests. I like this Relic. For the price of a power fist, you get to re-roll your failed psychic tests. You cannot re-roll selected dice like the Eldar can, but it should help you out of those situations where you throw 4 dice at a warp charge 1 power and fail to manifest any of your dice.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691898/8675005.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691898/8675005.page GMT [500] - Imperial Fists - Beginner army. Broken, worthless or just stupid?
If you are willing to take bikes, and don’t have an overriding reason not to, put your librarian on one. Bikes are just that good these days. It will also let you drop one of your tac squads (as the bikes now count as troops)

Points allowing, you might want a combi grav on the bike sarge.

In general your tac squads are going to want to move up to grab objectives. You might get more milage out of special weapons, rather then heavies on them. Matching combis on the sarge is a decent idea.

HB Devs look cool, and are OK for taking down light troops in the open. But you probably want to use them for AV work. In an ideal world, I’d like to see them with LCs, but if the bits aren’t there, can’t help that. If you are working from the BaC box, the only heavy options for your Devs are MLs and HBs. So MLs are probably the way to go here.

Even if you don’t want to make any other changes, swap the MLs from the tacs to the devs. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691898/8675099.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691898/8675099.page GMT [500] - Imperial Fists - Beginner army. Broken, worthless or just stupid?
 Nevelon wrote:
Not a bad list.

If you are willing to take bikes, and don’t have an overriding reason not to, put your librarian on one. Bikes are just that good these days. It will also let you drop one of your tac squads (as the bikes now count as troops)

Points allowing, you might want a combi grav on the bike sarge.

In general your tac squads are going to want to move up to grab objectives. You might get more milage out of special weapons, rather then heavies on them. Matching combis on the sarge is a decent idea.

HB Devs look cool, and are OK for taking down light troops in the open. But you probably want to use them for AV work. In an ideal world, I’d like to see them with LCs, but if the bits aren’t there, can’t help that. If you are working from the BaC box, the only heavy options for your Devs are MLs and HBs. So MLs are probably the way to go here.

Even if you don’t want to make any other changes, swap the MLs from the tacs to the devs.


Good Advice. A librarian on a bike will look really nice.

New list

Imperial Fists CAD

Librarian: lvl 2, The Bones of Osrak, Bike 135.p (Crimson Fists traits)

3x Bikes: 2x Grav Guns 93.p

5x Tactical Marines: Plasma Gun 85.p

5x Tactical Marines: Plasma Gun 85.p

5x Devestator Marines: 2x Missile Launchers 100.p

499.p

Looking at the list. Would going Ultramarine CAD be stronger in this particular list and would it be a problem if my Army is yellow with lots of black fists?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691898/8675160.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691898/8675160.page GMT Re:[500] - Imperial Fists - Beginner army. Broken, worthless or just stupid? ML and give more guns to the devastators. That extra power COULD be an edge, or just drivel power and extra WC (which isn't that big at such low point level.) Instead another ML and maybe a MM... those won't go wrong with tank hunters.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691898/8675197.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/691898/8675197.page GMT