<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "[1250] - Sisters of Battle for Doubles Tourney"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net [1250] - Sisters of Battle for Doubles Tourney LGS is hosting a Doubles Tournament, with different scenarios for each round. The first round will be with 500 point lists, while the second round will feature 1250 point lists per player. I already know that the round 2 game will be Eternal War/Relic + Maelstrom/Deadlock, with primary points being given for getting the Relic and secondaries for achieving Tactical Objectives.

One of my friends and I have already signed up, with his Imperial Guard and my Sororitas. My teammate is thinking of running something as follows:

Yarrick
10 Veterans- 2 plasma guns, flamer, Sgt w. power maul, Grenadiers
-Chimera
10 Veterans- 2 plasma guns, flamer, Sgt w. power maul, Grenadiers
-Chimera
10 Veterans- 2 meltaguns, flamer, Sgt w. power maul, Grenadiers
-Chimera
Manticore
Baneblade- sponson lascannons


I, meanwhile, have been trying to figure out what kind of list I'll be fielding to support this "Baneblade and Friends" list. I've come up with two of the following lists, the first of which tries to maximize mobile scoring units and firepower:

Celestine- 135
5 Battle Sisters- flamer, heavy flamer, SS w. combi-flamer- 85
-Immolator w. twin-linked multi-melta & dozer blades- 65
5 Battle Sisters- flamer, heavy flamer, SS w. combi-flamer- 85
-Immolator w. twin-linked multi-melta & dozer blades- 65
5 Battle Sisters- flamer, heavy flamer, SS w. combi-flamer- 85
-Immolator w. twin-linked multi-melta & dozer blades- 65
5 Dominions- 4 meltaguns- 105
-Immolator- twin-linked heavy flamer- 60
6 Seraphim- 2 hand flamers, SS w. meltabombs- 125
Exorcist- 125
Exorcist- 125
Exorcist- 125

Total: 1250


List #2, on the other hand, gives me a little more in the way of durability, and an Inquisitor with servo skulls to reduce scatter on blasts/counter White Scar scouting shenanigans:


Celestine- 135
5 Battle Sisters- flamer, heavy flamer, SS w. combi-flamer- 85
-Immolator w. twin-linked multi-melta & dozer blades- 65
5 Battle Sisters- flamer, heavy flamer, SS w. combi-flamer- 85
-Immolator w. twin-linked multi-melta & dozer blades- 65
5 Dominions- 4 meltaguns- 105
-Repressor- 75
5 Dominions- 4 meltaguns- 105
-Repressor- 75
8 Seraphim- 2 hand flamers, SS w. meltabombs- 155
Exorcist- 125
Exorcist- 125
Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor- power armour, 3 servo-skulls- 42

Total: 1242



Any thoughts on either list (and on the Guard list too, while we're at it?) Also, any recommendations on dealing with the following:

-Flyers (especially Flyrants, ooh how I hate them)
-Psyker bombs/Librarius Conclave deathstars
-White Scars (again, how I hate them)

Criticism, feedback, and above all advice, are appreciated.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/693228/8701760.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/693228/8701760.page GMT [1250] - Sisters of Battle for Doubles Tourney
Lord of Nonsensical Crap wrote:
So, on the 26th, one of my LGS is hosting a Doubles Tournament, with different scenarios for each round. The first round will be with 500 point lists, while the second round will feature 1250 point lists per player. I already know that the round 2 game will be Eternal War/Relic + Maelstrom/Deadlock, with primary points being given for getting the Relic and secondaries for achieving Tactical Objectives.

One of my friends and I have already signed up, with his Imperial Guard and my Sororitas. My teammate is thinking of running something as follows:

Yarrick
10 Veterans- 2 plasma guns, flamer, Sgt w. power maul, Grenadiers
-Chimera
10 Veterans- 2 plasma guns, flamer, Sgt w. power maul, Grenadiers
-Chimera
10 Veterans- 2 meltaguns, flamer, Sgt w. power maul, Grenadiers
-Chimera
Manticore
Baneblade- sponson lascannons


I, meanwhile, have been trying to figure out what kind of list I'll be fielding to support this "Baneblade and Friends" list. I've come up with two of the following lists, the first of which tries to maximize mobile scoring units and firepower:

Celestine- 135
5 Battle Sisters- flamer, heavy flamer, SS w. combi-flamer- 85
-Immolator w. twin-linked multi-melta & dozer blades- 65
5 Battle Sisters- flamer, heavy flamer, SS w. combi-flamer- 85
-Immolator w. twin-linked multi-melta & dozer blades- 65
5 Battle Sisters- flamer, heavy flamer, SS w. combi-flamer- 85
-Immolator w. twin-linked multi-melta & dozer blades- 65
5 Dominions- 4 meltaguns- 105
-Immolator- twin-linked heavy flamer- 60
6 Seraphim- 2 hand flamers, SS w. meltabombs- 125
Exorcist- 125
Exorcist- 125
Exorcist- 125

Total: 1250


List #2, on the other hand, gives me a little more in the way of durability, and an Inquisitor with servo skulls to reduce scatter on blasts/counter White Scar scouting shenanigans:


Celestine- 135
5 Battle Sisters- flamer, heavy flamer, SS w. combi-flamer- 85
-Immolator w. twin-linked multi-melta & dozer blades- 65
5 Battle Sisters- flamer, heavy flamer, SS w. combi-flamer- 85
-Immolator w. twin-linked multi-melta & dozer blades- 65
5 Dominions- 4 meltaguns- 105
-Repressor- 75
5 Dominions- 4 meltaguns- 105
-Repressor- 75
8 Seraphim- 2 hand flamers, SS w. meltabombs- 155
Exorcist- 125
Exorcist- 125
Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor- power armour, 3 servo-skulls- 42

Total: 1242



Any thoughts on either list (and on the Guard list too, while we're at it?) Also, any recommendations on dealing with the following:

-Flyers (especially Flyrants, ooh how I hate them)
-Psyker bombs/Librarius Conclave deathstars
-White Scars (again, how I hate them)

Criticism, feedback, and above all advice, are appreciated.


my 150 pt solution to white scars is a callidus assassin. Deploy in front of their vehicles. They cant scout them (cant scout move within 12 of an enemy unit), auto passes tank shock (fearless), if they tank shock, they cant disembark or move flat out, can only snap shot on turn 1, and a handy reroll on seize. On top of that she can deal damage if left alone.

Surprisingly few of them around, given the pain they can inflict on many armies.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/693228/8701842.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/693228/8701842.page GMT [1250] - Sisters of Battle for Doubles Tourney
1. Turn both combi-flamers on the BS to Combi-meltas on the Domis

2. Drop 4 seraphim, the melta-bomb and the inquisitor for a unit of retributors with HB

3. Tell your buddy to drop his useless, pointless, terrible, garbage powermauls so HE can take the inquisitor with 3 servo skull. Seriously he's basically throwing away 35 points that could be used to get you 12 more S5 AP4 rending shots.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/693228/8702367.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/693228/8702367.page GMT Re:[1250] - Sisters of Battle for Doubles Tourney
Commissar Yarrick- 145
10 Veterans- 2 sniper rifles, 1 plasma gun, Forward Sentries- 89
10 Veterans- 3 meltaguns, Sgt. w. bolt pistol & power axe, Grenadiers- 106
-Chimera- dozer blades, turret autocannon- 75
10 Veterans- 2 plasma guns, flamer, Sgt. w. power sword, Grenadiers- 110
-Chimera- turret autocannon- 70
3 Sentry Guns- twin-linked heavy bolters- 45
Baneblade- 2 sponson heavy bolters, 2 sponson lascannons, pintle-mounted storm bolter- 580

Total: 1250

Personally, I'm not a big fan of the sniper Veteran squad-- I get what he's doing with it, but by my math, he could ditch the Sentry Guns and the power weapons to turn them into another plasma-toting Grenadier squad in a Chimera. I'm unsure on the Sentry Guns, but then I can't think of much else the Guard could take at that low points cost that would be much better (other than a Sentinel or a servo-skull Inquisitor). I'm hoping we get a chance to test the combined list soon-- while I don't think the Baneblade is a bad choice, it does take up a lot of points, and I can't help but wonder if he wouldn't be better off with his earlier idea of an Executioner, a Manticore and a Hellhound.

Anyway, after listening to all of your points, I've refined my own list as follows:


Celestine- 135
5 Battle Sisters- flamer, heavy flamer, SS w. combi-flamer- 85
-Immolator w. twin-linked multi-melta & dozer blades- 65
5 Battle Sisters- flamer, heavy flamer, SS w. combi-flamer- 85
-Immolator w. twin-linked multi-melta & dozer blades- 65
5 Battle Sisters- 2 flamers-70
-Rhino- 40
5 Dominions- 4 meltaguns- 105
-Immolator- twin-linked heavy flamer- 60
5 Dominions- 4 meltaguns- 105
-Immolator- twin-linked heavy flamer- 60
6 Seraphim- 2 hand flamers, SS w. meltabombs- 125
Exorcist- 125
Exorcist- 125

Total: 1250

@Trazer: An interesting suggestion, though I'd personally want to playtest the Callidus to see for myself. At a higher points value, I'd certainly consider the Callidus, but I'm discovering that at 1250 I'm struggling to get the "essentials" of a Sororitas list in there.

@ERJAK- I've had mixed success with Retributors, to be honest, though they aren't a bad unit. I personally prefer to keep as much of my army as mobile as possible, however. (Also, I couldn't drop 8 Seraphim from list 2, as they have a minimum squad size of 5). Out of curiosity, why the combi-meltas on the Dominions? Aren't 4 meltas in each unit enough?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/693228/8702797.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/693228/8702797.page GMT [1250] - Sisters of Battle for Doubles Tourney
I suggested dropping 4 seraphim to make it a min squad, the extra few won't offer 15 ppm worth of benefit unfortunately.

You are better off using rhinos than TLHF immos, TLMM or nothing unless you're ONLY playing blob armies. the repressors were fine. that extra squad of sisters won't be worth it.

Combi-meltas are almost universally superior to combi-flamers and no 4 shots is not going to be enough in most cases. Keep in mind that even in repressors dominions will be obscenely lucky to get even a second round of shooting so for them to be worth their points whatever they shoot MUST DIE, the first time you leave a a transport or artillery piece intact due to a bad die roll you'll kick yourself for not having that 5th shot.
TL: DR You play sisters of battle, the words 'enough melta' are HERESY.

Side note, tell your friend to stop putting power weapons on sargents, they will never get to swing with them.
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