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				<description><![CDATA[ Greetings!<br /> <br /> I am going to a 1500 point tournament soon. It uses mostly maelstrom missions and kill points is a slight factor throughout. <br /> <br /> My lsits are all based off the list used to win storm of silence here:<br /> <br />  <a href="http://bloodofkittens.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Chuck-Arnett-Best-Overall-Storm-of-Silence-Orks-2015.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://bloodofkittens.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Chuck-Arnett-Best-Overall-Storm-of-Silence-Orks-2015.pdf</a> <br /> <br /> List 1<br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span><br /> Warboss with bike, lucky stick, klaw<br /> Zhadsnark Da' Rippa'<br /> <br /> 8 tank bustas, 2 bomb squigs<br /> 9 tank bustas<br /> <br /> 10 gretchin<br /> 15 bikes, nob, klaw, boss pole<br /> <br /> 2X gun wagons, rams<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span><br /> painboy, bike<br /> <br /> 9 tank bustas<br /> 9 tank bustas<br /> <br /> 10 gretchin<br /> 10 gretchin<br /> <br /> 2X gun wagons, rams
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<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span><br /> Zhadsnark Da' Rippa'<br /> <br /> 3 meganobz, 3 flamers, boss pole<br /> 3 meganobz, 3 flamers, boss pole<br /> <br /> 10 gretchin, squig hound<br /> 15 bikes, nob, klaw, boss pole<br /> <br /> gun wagon, ram<br /> gun wagon, ram<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span><br /> painboy, bike<br /> <br /> 10 tank bustas, nob, boss pole, 3 bomb squigs<br /> 10 tank bustas, nob, boss pole, <br /> <br /> 10 gretchin, squig hound<br /> 10 gretchin, squig hound<br /> <br /> 2X gun wagons, rams
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<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span><br /> Zhadsnark Da' Rippa'<br /> <br /> 3 meganobz, 2 flamers, boss pole, truck, ram<br /> 3 meganobz, 2 flamers, boss pole, truck, ram<br /> 3 meganobz, 2 flamers, boss pole, truck, ram<br /> <br /> 10 gretchin, <br /> 15 bikes, nob, klaw, boss pole<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span><br /> painboy, bike<br /> <br /> 8 tank bustas, 2 bomb squigs<br /> 8 tank bustas<br /> <br /> 10 gretchin<br /> 10 gretchin<br /> <br /> 2X gun wagons, rams
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<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span><br /> Zhadsnark Da' Rippa'<br /> painboy, bike<br /> <br /> 8 tank bustas, truck, ram<br /> <br /> 10 gretchin, <br /> 15 bikes, nob, klaw, boss pole<br /> <br /> gun wagon, ram<br /> gun wagon, ram<br /> <br /> Formation:<br /> Bully bopyz<br /> <br /> 5 meganobz, 2 flamers, truck, ram<br /> 2X 5 meganobz, 2 flamers
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</div><br /> <br /> for how this list is generally played, go to the fronline gaming link here: <br /> <a href="http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/05/40k-tactics-orks-winning-tournaments-say-waaagh.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/05/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>-tactics-orks-winning-tournaments-say-waaagh.html</a><br /> <br /> (I will be using the same tactics more or less, but obviously the gun wagons provide more protection to the tank bustas than the trukks, and by adding meganobz I have more offensive capabilities, there is an argument for each list, so which do you prefer and why?)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> feel free to scrutinise!! <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> please, someone poke a hole in my lists? <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jun 2016 12:33:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Honestly with the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> I think that Tankbustas' lack of combat prowess really diminishes them, and therefore I picked List 3. Meganobz provide a very immediate threat to your enemy, and they don't need the extra protection of a gun wagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>tbh</span>. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would suggest using Bully Boyz.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 150pts zhardsnark<br /> 75pts painboy on bike<br /> <br /> 179pts 8 warbikes upgrade one to nob w <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span><br /> 54pts 3 warbikers<br /> 54pts 3 warbikers<br /> <br /> 188pts 11 tankbustas upgrade one to nob w <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>Pk</span> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span> and bomb squig<br /> <br /> 260pts Gunwagon x4 w ram<br /> 600pts Bullyboys<br /> <br /> If not this list go for list 3 however mega nobs are not fearless or have the extra bonuses]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I will add a 4th option with bully boyz in it, see what you think?<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0555810fb6fb0f6ee2969f0891af0fb7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/693485/8708516.page"><b>Sledgio wrote:</b></a><br/>Honestly with the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> I think that Tankbustas' lack of combat prowess really diminishes them, and therefore I picked List 3. Meganobz provide a very immediate threat to your enemy, and they don't need the extra protection of a gun wagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>tbh</span>. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> thanks for the feeback, I agree that at the moment they are worse, but in my last 3 games with them they havent even needed to get into combat with anything as they could just shoot it and get the job done that way. I am also hoping that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> give back our melta bombs haha.<br /> <br /> in terms of gun wagons, personally I have found the extra armour priceless, and especially for meganobz, it is VERY important, otherwise you will be foot slogging the whole game 6" a turn because they shot their paper car haha, and with the bully boyz, it becomes even more important because you dont want such a costly unit being left behind.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1576be165100dd27624647b79d4c1c9f.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/693485/8708580.page"><b>Spacewolverine wrote:</b></a><br/>I would suggest using Bully Boyz.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> noted! <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/693485/8708952.page"><b>gungo wrote:</b></a><br/>150pts zhardsnark<br /> 75pts painboy on bike<br /> <br /> 179pts 8 warbikes upgrade one to nob w <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span><br /> 54pts 3 warbikers<br /> 54pts 3 warbikers<br /> <br /> 188pts 11 tankbustas upgrade one to nob w <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>Pk</span> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span> and bomb squig<br /> <br /> 260pts Gunwagon x4 w ram<br /> 600pts Bullyboys<br /> <br /> If not this list go for list 3 however mega nobs are not fearless or have the extra bonuses</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I actually really, really like this list <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> THANK YOU SO MUCH!<br /> I have made some changes to it and made it my list 4 <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Gungo's List is your best bet]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ List 4 voted for however you will likely be in the same position I am and building more mega nobs.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/693485/8709756.page"><b>gungo wrote:</b></a><br/>List 4 voted for however you will likely be in the same position I am and building more mega nobs.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Luckily I only have 3 more to get haha<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/693485/8709567.page"><b>morfydd wrote:</b></a><br/>Gungo's List is your best bet</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Fair enough, but personally I like the idea of having more bikes in the star as padding, but you might be right, I will have to do some practice games to find out what suits my play style best]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Your list is fine my only issue and your meta may differ trukks just don't last past turn 1 but gun wagons are slower. Which isn't a huge issue with mega nobs since I'm just going to flatout with gunwagons since mega nobs have absolutely no shooting potential. However it kinda sucks for tabkbustas that want to shoot but still get a charge turn 2.<br /> <br /> Also the only reason I break off min squads of bikers is as objective grabbers and sometimes I find 15+ bike units big and unwieldly. However with skilled rider and painboy even assault grenades from zhardsnark that bike star bikes are just better. That's my fast assault unit with 2x klaws and painboy.<br /> <br /> Your list 4 will do well play it and you can tweak it a few times as you go.<br /> Also an easy and huge bump for this list to make it an 1850 list is a knight renegade warden for 375pts. That just gives your list a huge threat with a good range <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(351);'>atk</span> with another av13 model that takes away your opponents shooting at your wagons. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My meta is probably a dead truck turn 1 haha, but im hoping there will be some terrain to help me out with cover.<br /> <br /> Thank you for your advice <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> i may find the bike squad too unwieldy as you say, in which case ill reduce it and see if i can have a list more similar to yours, Ill post on here after a practice game im having in a couple of games and let yall know how it went <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey just something that popped out, melta bombs were never taken away. The book says one grenade per unit per phase. Not sure how people took that to say any amount of grenades per unit per phase. <br /> <br /> But I love tankbustas. They are usually the mvp of my games and with that S8 AP3 tank hunter, can really get the job done. Orks generally don't have a solid ranged heavy team so tankbustas usually fill that role (mek gunz who can have higher <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> are too random for current meta). ]]></description>
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