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				<title>[2000] - Raven Guard - vs CSM (knight + flyer)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'll be playing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(757);'>RG</span> for the first time. I'll be playing against a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> player who I know is bringing a knight (the melee one) and at least 1 Heldrake. I've also seen him field Abaddon w/termies. C&C welcome. I'll be running the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(757);'>RG</span> Pinion Battle Demi-Company and Bladewing. Plan to infiltrate scouts and deep strike Shrike, vanguard vets, and assault squads turn 1 against his ground forces while my heavier weapons focus on the knight. Here's what I have:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Shrike<br /> <br /> Elite: Vanguard Vets x5 w/jump packs, 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>, 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, Sarge w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PW</span><br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> Scouts: 4x sniper rifles, 1x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>, camo cloaks, teleport homer<br /> Scouts: 4x bolters, camo cloaks, teleport homer<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad: 6x Marines w/flamer in a Razorback w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad: 7x marines w/flamer<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad: 5x marines w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Assault Squad: 10x marines, 2x flamer, sergeant w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PW</span><br /> Assault squad: Same as first<br /> Bike squad: 6x bikes, 2x w/melta, 1x attack bike w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span><br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Devastators: 7x Marines w/4x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> w/flakk<br /> Predator: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> sponsons<br /> Predator same as above]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Jun 2016 05:06:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Flanker]]></author>
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				<title>[2000] - Raven Guard - vs CSM (knight + flyer)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm a bit confused. Are you asking on how to build an army from these models?  What you have posted is a Combined Arms Detachment, not a Pinion Demi Company and a Bladewing. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(298);'>AFAIK</span>, you can't even take a Predator in either of those detachments.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Jun 2016 10:26:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sarigar]]></author>
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				<title>[2000] - Raven Guard - vs CSM (knight + flyer)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0c824016eca30d4a97b274026c8a1d2b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/694202/8722663.page"><b>Sarigar wrote:</b></a><br/>I'm a bit confused. Are you asking on how to build an army from these models?  What you have posted is a Combined Arms Detachment, not a Pinion Demi Company and a Bladewing. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(298);'>AFAIK</span>, you can't even take a Predator in either of those detachments.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I have the models here and this is a shot at a list. This is my first shot trying to build an army with formations. I think I posted it out of order as well. Do I need 2x Captains or Chaplains to make it or can they carry over? Do I need to break down the assault squads to meet the min requirements of each? Upon closer review, I don't think I can take the bikes or Preds. This is a dumpster fire.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Jun 2016 12:10:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Flanker]]></author>
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				<title>[2000] - Raven Guard - vs CSM (knight + flyer)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Take a look at the formations and they will specify exactly what you need to take.<br /> <br /> As it stands, you have a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span> which you can choose <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(757);'>RG</span> for your Chapter Tactics.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Jun 2016 18:23:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sarigar]]></author>
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				<title>[2000] - Raven Guard - vs CSM (knight + flyer)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You can make a Pinion and a bladewing assault brotherhood but Raveh Guard.<br /> <br /> Shrike<br /> <br /> 3 x 5 man Tacs<br /> 1x 5 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span><br /> 1x 5 man Assault<br /> 2 x 5 man Scout<br /> 2 x 3 man Scout bikes (proxy your Bikes)<br /> <br /> 1x 5 man Vanguard Vets<br /> 3x 5 man Assault <br /> <br /> The only thing you need is a jump pack captain or chaplain.<br /> Sadly the Ravenguard don;t believe in armor so you can't field them outside of a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span>. But I would strongly urge you to read the rules on the Raven Guard and the formations and try it a few times. You will definitely want to get more flamers and plasma guns or heavy weapons for your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads but you have enough to get the feel for the formation. I think it is somewhat of a glass cannon space marine approach but it can be very powerful but I don't think it will be forgiving of mistakes. But as you develop your experience and find the style of the army you will grow into it. You will see the cool synergy of the other formations and if will guide you as you grow your raven guard.  If you have a friend you can trade with lose the predators for whirlwinds or drop pods but wait until you are sure you want to develope a full blown Raven <br /> guard.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>BTW</span> With your lack <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>pf</span> antitank meltabombs are your only friend against a knight.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 19 Jun 2016 05:11:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DAaddict]]></author>
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