http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net GW one I just need a small one with all the info needed to play, do the starter sets still come with these or are they a thing of the past? I really don't want to get a bulky one to lug around and getting some models as well as the rules seems like a 2 birds one expensive stone situation I could get behind.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/694722/8733324.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/694722/8733324.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/694722/8733369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/694722/8733369.page GMT DV with how the game is shifting. Chaos builds armies for the purpose of NEVER using the models in that box if they want to stay alive past Turn 3. They do make good painting practice though, I'll grant them that, but other than those two caveats, eBay is just a better option.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/694722/8733398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/694722/8733398.page GMT