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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm creating a new Dark Angels army (1000 pts), more specifically a Ravenwing based army, and I was wondering if it was actually any good: <br /> <br /> This army is in 6th edition as that is what I play with my friends...<br /> <br /> Sammael <br /> <br /> <br /> Ravenwing Command Squad <br />       -Ravenwing Grenade Launcher, Champion, Ravenwing Company Banner <br /> <br /> Ravenwing Dark Talon <br /> <br /> Ravenwing Attack Squad x4 <br />      -Flamer, Plasma Gun <br /> <br /> Ravenwing Darkshroud <br />      -Assault Cannon <br /> <br /> Exactly 1000 pts total<br /> <br /> My plan would generally be to utilize the Ravenwing company banner and constantly hit and run, while supporting them with the Ravenwing Darkshroud's Assault Cannon and abilities. <br /> <br /> Thanks]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2016 03:33:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:[1000] - Dark Angels - Ravenwing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If you expand this list, the 6th edition <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> codex got an errata to allow up to 2 extra Black Knights in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> Command Squad.<br /> <br /> I'm not keen on the assault cannon upgrade for the Darkshroud, as it should always be Jinking.<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but 6th ed Sammy only makes standard Ravenwing Attack Squadrons into Troops, so you're short by one troop?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Correct me if I'm wrong, but 6th ed Sammy only makes standard Ravenwing Attack Squadrons into Troops, so you're short by one troop?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I have 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> (Sammael + Command), 4 Troops (4xRavenwing Bikes), and 2 Fast Attack (Darkshroud, Dark Talon)<br /> <br /> Also, what would you recommend that I use the points from the assault cannon for? How much do the additions to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> Command Squad cost?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2016 15:29:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:[1000] - Dark Angels - Ravenwing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ah, I see! Sorry, assumed it was a single unit of 4 bikers (*facepalm*).<br /> <br /> I have managed to find the 6th edition <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> (I'd saved it on my computer), here's the bit for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> Command squads:<br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Page 96 – Ravenwing Command Squad, options.<br /> Add:<br /> “• The Ravenwing Command Squad may purchase up to two<br /> additional Ravenwing Black<br /> Knights……………………………………………..40 pts / model”<br /> Change the first bullet point to:<br /> “• One Ravenwing Black Knight may take a banner from the<br /> following list:<br /> - Ravenwing Company Banner*...........................................15 pts”<br /> - Revered Standard................................................................25 pts”<br /> - Alternatively, the may take a banner from the Sacred Standards<br /> section of the wargear list.”</div></blockquote>Note sure what exactly I'd use the assault cannon points for, as you'd have to drop <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> bikers for anything significant. I'd be tempted to work in some melta but the old combat squads rule wasn't great for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span>.<br /> <br /> Another thing to note is that in 6th, the Standard of Devastation is pretty brutal with Ravenwing bikes.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2016 16:32:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for that, but should I exchange the Ravenwing Company Banner, which automatically allows all Ravenwing units to pass their Initiative tests for Hit and Run within 12", for the Banner of Devestation?<br /> <br /> Also, where did you initially find that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2016 16:35:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Depends if you want to keep your friends  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>'s have moved about quite abit historically - from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> site to the Black Library, and back to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> main site again. <a href="https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Here's a link to the current (7th) versions</a>, though they've currently got the next versions in draft form on their <a href="https://www.facebook.com/1575682476085719/photos/pcb.1610528622601104/1610526502601316/?type=3&theater" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Facebook</a> page.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span> me your email address and I'll be able to send you the 6th edition one.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2016 16:44:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:[1000] - Dark Angels - Ravenwing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Would it be a valid strategy to constantly hit and run, utilizing the Ravenwing Company Banner to automatically pass the initiative test, the Rift cannon on the Storm Talon to lower the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> of the unit that is being assaulted to 1, and the Ravenwing Grenade Launcher's Rad shells to reduce the Toughness of the unit by one, or would my army be easily shredded to bits?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2016 17:04:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:[1000] - Dark Angels - Ravenwing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/aec93f09388cdb7feeec66c326437f87.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/695619/8755172.page"><b>wlnnell wrote:</b></a><br/>Would it be a valid strategy to constantly hit and run, utilizing the Ravenwing Company Banner to automatically pass the initiative test, the Rift cannon on the Storm Talon to lower the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> of the unit that is being assaulted to 1, and the Ravenwing Grenade Launcher's Rad shells to reduce the Toughness of the unit by one, or would my army be easily shredded to bits?</div></blockquote>It's definitely a valid tactic, although I remember the Rift Cannon itself being a bit underwhelming? S5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>- with a Blind test? But it still has the stasis bomb and the hurricanes.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2016 17:10:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Should I exchange it for more bikes? Also, why is the standard of devastation so good?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2016 17:11:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:[1000] - Dark Angels - Ravenwing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/aec93f09388cdb7feeec66c326437f87.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/695619/8755188.page"><b>wlnnell wrote:</b></a><br/>Should I exchange it for more bikes? Also, why is the standard of devastation so good?</div></blockquote><br /> Unless I'm forgetting what it does it doubles the firepower of a Bike.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2016 17:17:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ True, but is that more useful to my army then automatically passing Initiative tests on Hit and Run attacks?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2016 17:18:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would say it is. I4 is pretty good as it is as you pass most of the time. You can increase H&R by a third or double range power. (Assuming I can do maths which is questionable given the amount of mistakes I make.)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Standard Costs 50 pts more then the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> Company Standard, should I scrap the Dark Talon, use some of the points to get that standard and then the rest to get more bikes or possibly a devastator squad for more firepower?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2016 17:23:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd forgotten it cost that much (it doesn't appear in the 7th edition 'dex).<br /> <br /> Stick with what you have, play a few games, then jiggle things about and try the SoD.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ As it's the 6th rules I would definitely get rid of the Dark Talon.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2016 17:28:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Looking at my army, I realized that I have VERY few bodies, thereby meaning that every death would be noticeable, should i exchange my Dark Talon for more bikes if the Rift Cannon isn't that good?]]></description>
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