http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net DE are considered subpar, but I want to play them for my first game in quite some time. Please comment with any thoughts or suggestions (with reasoning please) you have about the list, it would be much appreciated. Thank you.

+++ Dark Eldar (1500pts) +++

++ Dark Eldar: Codex (2014) (Realspace Raiders Detachment) (1500pts) ++

+ HQ (75pts) +

Court of the Archon (75pts) [Lhameans]
····Venom [Splinter Cannon]

+ Troops (630pts) +

Kabalite Warriors (105pts) [5x Kabalite Warrior]
····Venom [Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors (105pts) [5x Kabalite Warrior]
····Venom [Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors (105pts) [5x Kabalite Warrior]
····Venom [Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors (105pts) [5x Kabalite Warrior]
····Venom [Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors (105pts) [5x Kabalite Warrior]
····Venom [Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors (105pts) [5x Kabalite Warrior]
····Venom [Splinter Cannon]

+ Fast Attack (420pts) +

Razorwing Jetfighter (140pts) [2 Dark Lances, 4x Monoscythe Missile, Twin-linked Splinter Rifle]

Razorwing Jetfighter (140pts) [2 Dark Lances, 4x Monoscythe Missile, Twin-linked Splinter Rifle]

Razorwing Jetfighter (140pts) [2 Dark Lances, 4x Monoscythe Missile, Twin-linked Splinter Rifle]

+ Heavy Support (375pts) +

Ravager (125pts) [Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance]

Ravager (125pts) [Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance]

Ravager (125pts) [Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance]

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8772194.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8772194.page GMT DE lists. It's a good list. Depending on what you might face, you could do a double cad, drop some razor wings and add a couple more ravagers. That's only if you have a vehicle heavy meta so you have more first turn AT. Overall though it'll do fine as it is here.


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Also I realized you may want to upgrade one warrior to a sybarite. The lhamean is not a character and to get a warlord trait you have to have a character. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8772703.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8772703.page GMT

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To be perfectly honest, is there any warlord traits that would be worth having on a warrior?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8773512.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8773512.page GMT
Only thing I would do different, ofcourse depending on meta, is reduce number of Razorwings and Ravagers to 3 all together. This way it's a bit Dark Lance spammy, and I'm not sure you need all of them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8774747.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8774747.page GMT
Thankyou, the razorwings are mainly for dropping their payload of missiles on whatever targets they can when they arrive, then go popping wounds of IC's MC's and maybe do a little tank hunting depending on the situation. If I were to cut them, what would you suggest to replace them?? (lots of reaver jetbikes? units of three with cluster caltrops?)

My local scene seems to be very weak to flyers, with most people completely ignoring them to be honest. So having three seems like a solid choice. Also, there seems to be an abundance of rhinos to prey on. Amounts in the realm of 3-5 per list, along with lots of other light armour.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8775761.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8775761.page GMT
1. Death from the skies offer formation wing with nice bonuses for 2 and up fighter aircrafts, also don't forget that with this book DE Razorwing practically got Vector Dancer with Agility modifier. Also having Air superiority will give you modifier of +2 to your reserve rolls, and -1 to opponent's
2. If you reduce to 1 Ravager and 1 or 2 Razorwings, rest points you can use for couple of Sslyths to acompany Lhamean for additional poisoning, or adding 1 blaster to each venom crew, or putting Reavers for objective cap. Again it depends on your meta and preferences, oh and models you own ofcourse ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8776263.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8776263.page GMT
I'll look into those formations, do the razorwings come in at the same points as the codex ones?? I haven't had a chance to look at those formations at all yet.

Also, what would the blasters help with if i cut ravagers to field them?? (with the jink clarifications in mind) They're basically the same weapon, but on far less durable (and reliable) models.

My meta is mostly transports (AV11 variety) and MEQ's, standard cookie cutter lists.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8777393.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8777393.page GMT
Well with so many Dark Lances you should be openning their AV 11 like cans. On average 3 transports per turn.

For more AV busting solutions look into following: Scourges can now all take same weapon so you can have 4 Haywire or Heat lance members; 4 trueborne with Venom and blasters; Voidraven bomber]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8778384.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8778384.page GMT
I'm familiar with blasterborn, and haywire scourges, the main point of this list is to have a large amount of redundancy to make up somewhat for the frailty of DE overall. Something that's hard to achieve with those kinds of units.

One problem I've found with blasterborn, is to use them effectively, you have to move into rapid fire range for your opponents next turn, and bolguns are enough to take out venoms. Whereas with venoms, you can sit comfortably outside of the full 30" effective range of those small arms, and effectily kite pretty much any infantry. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8778502.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/696416/8778502.page GMT