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				<title>[2000] - Space Marines - Late for the Party</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Here is a "fun" Take all Comers list. Single Detachment. Please Comment, Critique,<br /> <br /> Turn one relies on positioning the bikes. The Plasma gun bikes (i know grav is better, but Dark Vengeance!) work as my Objective Hunters, The grav bikers and grav centurions act as heavy lifters. The Thunderfire Cannons and Land Speeders are backfield support. <br /> <br /> Late for the party, I have 4 Flyers auto on Turn 2, and I'd like to outflank the Kahn and the Melta bikes to keep him safe for a turn or two at least. They can then try to hit the enemy backfield. <br /> <br /> Would you play against it? I don't play super competitively, and mostly Maelstrom missions, so speed and flexibility are a big part of the list. But are there any suggestions to a more dedicated Anti tank? i figure the typhoons everywhere would serve a decent punch.<br /> <br /> Dropping typhoons,and grav missile launchers frees up 81 points. Any suggestions for a plug in? Meltabombs, Land speeders, attack bikes, hunter, wirldwind, Inquisitor etc?<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Kahn, Moondrakkan- 150<br /> <br /> Troops: <br />  4 Bikers, 2 Grav, combi-grav-124<br />  4 Bikers, 2 Grav, combi-grav-124<br />  4 Bikers, 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>Plas</span>, combi-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span>-124<br />  4 Bikers, 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>Plas</span>, combi-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span>-124<br />  4 Bikers, 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>Plas</span>, combi-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span>-124<br />  4 Bikers, 2 Melta combi-melta-114<br /> <br /> Heavy: 3 Grav Centurions, missile launchers, Drop Pod- 305<br /> 1 Thunderfire Cannon- 100<br /> 1 Thunderfire Cannon- 100<br /> <br /> Raptor Wing Formation: 280<br /> Stormtalon, Skyhammer- 115<br /> Stormtalon, Skyhammer- 115<br /> Landspeeder, H.Bolter, H.Flamer- 50<br /> <br /> Raptor Wing Formation: 330<br /> Stormtalon, Typhoon- 130<br /> Stormtalon, Typhoon- 130<br /> Landspeeder, H.Bolter, Typhoon- 70<br /> <br /> TOTAL= 1999<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Nightlord1987]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[2000] - Space Marines - Late for the Party</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ First, sure -- I'd play against it, why not.  Just to be clear, as far as I can tell, this is an UNBOUND list... too many troop choices for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span>, not enough <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s.  I think at 2000 points, its a little bit of a fragile list... the landspeeders won't do a lot to help <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span>/Drop Pods in your backfield hitting <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>TFCs</span>.  Bikes are always good, but you won't be getting the full "Scars" benefit in your current formation.  I think 4 stormtalons is a little bit of overkill... you don't have a ton of anti-armor, save some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span> on bikes, which you won't be able to afford to jink.  You could probably either squeeze these into a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> GSF or maybe even look at doing a Ravenwing list (if mass bikes are what you're after).  The GSF would give you a tank for your Cents, too -- without it, they'll eat some AP2 fire and disappear quickly.  I'd never take a Landspeeder without Melta, they get such good angles -- maybe if you're intent on the speeders, switch out a Raptor Wing for a Suppression force with 2x Whirlwinds... might kinda duplicate effor with those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>TFC</span>'s though.  I just think you'll be wishing you had more bodies when you come up against a Battle Company... ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 14 Jul 2016 11:03:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ jgfield79]]></author>
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