Lippy777 wrote:
Crusader Squad - 3x Initiate w/CCW, 1x Initiate w/Power sword , Sword Brother w/Combi-plasma & Power Sword
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Crusader Squad - 2x Initiate w/Boltgun, 1x Initiate w/LasCannon, 1x Initiate w/PlasmaGun, 1x Sword Brother.

 Quanar wrote:
The Start Collecting box will basically get you a slight discount of tac squad (which you'll use as the base for your Initiates) and Ven dread, with a free Terminator Captain thrown in, so if you're getting those units anyway, free stuff is always good.

At the moment you're not loaded down by an excess of special weapons - you get one of each (flamer, melta, plasma and grav) in the tac squad box, and another of flamer, melta and plasma in the BT upgrade kit. The only thing you'd need to source elsewhere would be the Lascannon (should be able to pick one up online or from another marine player easily enough.

Most ticky-boxy with the HQ and Elites, though I would suggest some TH/SS on the termies to protect against AP2, and a heavy flamer on the Dread - upgrades for larger games maybe, where there's more spare points.

With the first Crusader squad's Sword Brother, he's obviously intending to use the plasma on the turn they arrive (as they can't charge that turn anyways), but it still means losing the +1A for the power sword. The alternatives are either (a) drop the combi-plasma and keep the pistol, for +1A, or (b) swap the power sword for a lightning claw - you're already missing the +1A so Specialist isn't a worry, netting you bonus Shred for free.

The second Crusader squad I'm not sure if I would drop either the Las (and be able to move forward with the rest) or drop the plasma (as it might not get fired if the enemy doesn't come to you). Currently it's sort of got conflicting goals, but in small games versatility isn't necessarily a bad thing, so maybe keep it as is.

So you think my troops choices are most tickyboxy or the HQ and Elite?
I initially went for TH/SS but was told it was a waste. Or should I mix/match them? In which case would a 3Lightning, 2TH/SS spread work?

In honesty this was probably a throw away upgrade anyway, to use the points up. As he's in the combat unit I'd rather go for the extra attacks ( ?!)

I just like the idea of swords on them, like Knights (not the grey ones)! I did think about a powerfist though, but figured Initiative1 would mean he may die...

I envisaged these guys being a covering fire sort of unit, and maybe a rhino-wrecker? Also I thought that Las/Plas was a good combo with Templars.. perhaps I've read wrong?
I understand the confused ranges of the weapons, but wanted to try and find some heavy weapons, without using Devastators as they're not very Templary from what I gather?