<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Space Marine devastators"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Space Marine devastators I play as a Black Dragons Chapter (Salamanders tactics) with large amount of infantry, I want them sitting near the back, but be able to deal with both infantry and veircles]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822664.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822664.page GMT Space Marine devastators devs at home. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822673.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822673.page GMT Space Marine devastators MM for salamanders would be pretty good.

I think in general you want to avoid, missiles, and plasma. The rest you can make an argument for.

In general I use those weapons to outfit my tacticals lol. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822765.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822765.page GMT Space Marine devastators
 _Zarrack_ wrote:
I'm planning on buying 2 boxes of Space Marine devastators, can anyone tell me what heavy weapons are best,
I play as a Black Dragons Chapter (Salamanders tactics) with large amount of infantry, I want them sitting near the back, but be able to deal with both infantry and veircles


There aren't really any good long-range anti-infantry options for devastators. Grav cannons are their most useful weapon against infantry and monstrous creatures, but they have short range. Multimeltas are useful against vehicles but their range is also poor. Grav puts out so many shots (rerolling to wound/damage vehicles thanks to grav amps) that it will wreck vehicles too. Overall you're better off using centurion devastators that can move and shoot properly, unless you're running a skyhammer formation to make regular devastators relentless for a turn.

Sitting near the back and shooting is a job better left to thunderfire cannons these days.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822773.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822773.page GMT Space Marine devastators http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822776.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822776.page GMT Space Marine devastators
 6^ wrote:
I would say take 4 missile launchers. Great range and can use frag missiles against large low toughness units like cultists or termagaunts.


No. Never missile launchers. They are awful. Get two typhoon speeders instead. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822793.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822793.page GMT Space Marine devastators
Real News wrote:
 _Zarrack_ wrote:
I'm planning on buying 2 boxes of Space Marine devastators, can anyone tell me what heavy weapons are best,
I play as a Black Dragons Chapter (Salamanders tactics) with large amount of infantry, I want them sitting near the back, but be able to deal with both infantry and veircles


There aren't really any good long-range anti-infantry options for devastators. Grav cannons are their most useful weapon against infantry and monstrous creatures, but they have short range. Multimeltas are useful against vehicles but their range is also poor. Grav puts out so many shots (rerolling to wound/damage vehicles thanks to grav amps) that it will wreck vehicles too. Overall you're better off using centurion devastators that can move and shoot properly, unless you're running a skyhammer formation to make regular devastators relentless for a turn.

Sitting near the back and shooting is a job better left to thunderfire cannons these days.


Just take a cataphracti terminator captain and they get slow and purpose so that solves the mobility problem]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822802.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822802.page GMT Space Marine devastators http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822824.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8822824.page GMT Re:Space Marine devastators http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8823285.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8823285.page GMT Space Marine devastators dev squad? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8823307.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8823307.page GMT Re:Space Marine devastators HQ tax anyways mine as well put them to use in an effective way.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8823335.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8823335.page GMT Space Marine devastators Devs and a Rhino then pushing them fast forward to control mid. They have taken out more flyes than any other unit in my army lol.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8826145.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8826145.page GMT Re:Space Marine devastators Grav cannon with grav amp: Best weapon available to devs, gets really nasty in the Skyhammer Annihilation Force.
Missile Launcher: Less expensive than certain other choices, but as others have pointed out it's usually better to take a pair of LS Typhoons instead of 4 Missile Devs. If you're strapped for anti-air you could take 4 Flakk missile devs, but that's a bit expensive for 4 skyfire shots.
Lascannon: I personally like these, as they can sit in the rear and pop transports/TEQ, but they really aren't that good, mainly due to being 1 shot.
Plasma Cannon: Not terrible, but not very good either. Any opponent worth his salt will space his units out so that only 1 or 2 get hit with any one small template.
Multi-melta: Good choice, but only in Skyhammer since they get Relentless and can pod in right next to that pesky enemy vehicle that needs to die. Otherwise, snap firing and short range ruins the appeal of the weapon.
Heavy Bolter: Only useful against hordes of cheap mooks (like Guardsmen, Ork Boyz, or Tyranid Gaunts). Marines laugh at them.

My 2 cents.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8826207.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8826207.page GMT Space Marine devastators
However


Long range firepower in a semi casual setting? Lascannons - Can't kill enough infantry but can certainly lay some heavy anti tank S9 AP2 fire for the heavy stuff

Competitive? Grav cannons in a stormlance demi company or Skyhammer formation - Wounds against armour saves at AP2 and causes immobilization to vehicles on a 6 and a metric ton of shots. 24" range but does what you want with it's anti armour/anti infantry role.

Heavy bolters are a waste of time if you're not a sister of battle

Multi meltas suffer for a lack of relentless (unless in a skyhammer)

Missile Launchers are just terrible... a lack of AP2 and only 1 shot each is lack luster against vehicles and frag missiles are usually not even worth firing...(when decent when you can spam the shots cheaply - but not the devs)

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 _Zarrack_ wrote:
I'm planning on buying 2 boxes of Space Marine devastators, can anyone tell me what heavy weapons are best,
I play as a Black Dragons Chapter (Salamanders tactics) with large amount of infantry, I want them sitting near the back, but be able to deal with both infantry and veircles
I went with 4x Plasmacannon and 4x Grav-cannon. Then gave the sergeants combi-weapons to match their units.

I love me some gravma. Gave two SM players' armies heart attacks. Fun times.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831102.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831102.page GMT Space Marine devastators http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831231.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831231.page GMT Space Marine devastators
 Selym wrote:
 _Zarrack_ wrote:
I'm planning on buying 2 boxes of Space Marine devastators, can anyone tell me what heavy weapons are best,
I play as a Black Dragons Chapter (Salamanders tactics) with large amount of infantry, I want them sitting near the back, but be able to deal with both infantry and veircles
I went with 4x Plasmacannon and 4x Grav-cannon. Then gave the sergeants combi-weapons to match their units.

I love me some gravma. Gave two SM players' armies heart attacks. Fun times.


Jikes, that's a llot of get's hot rolls there. has it ever backfired on you?

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Martel732 wrote:
You don't need to ask. Between gets hot and small templates, it's literally the worst weapon you can give devs.

I would've thought that would be the wondrous Heavy Bolter.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831250.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831250.page GMT Space Marine devastators http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831259.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831259.page GMT Space Marine devastators http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831271.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831271.page GMT Space Marine devastators
Martel732 wrote:
Heavy bolters are cheaper and can't kill my own guys AND get full benefit of BS4. And can spam down some units like ghetto scatterlasers. I'll take crappy wound spam over small blasts any day.

Fair enough. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831281.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831281.page GMT Space Marine devastators
 Torus wrote:
 Selym wrote:
 _Zarrack_ wrote:
I'm planning on buying 2 boxes of Space Marine devastators, can anyone tell me what heavy weapons are best,
I play as a Black Dragons Chapter (Salamanders tactics) with large amount of infantry, I want them sitting near the back, but be able to deal with both infantry and veircles
I went with 4x Plasmacannon and 4x Grav-cannon. Then gave the sergeants combi-weapons to match their units.

I love me some gravma. Gave two SM players' armies heart attacks. Fun times.


Jikes, that's a llot of get's hot rolls there. has it ever backfired on you?

One memorable game was set to be my opponent's apocalypse - he was running some fluffy 1st company, and my BT was taking to the field with some rather aggressively deployed heavy weapons. Turn 1 my Plasma all wiffed, and killed half my devastators. Turn two saw epic misses, and then they got sniped out by some plucky sternguards.

The only redeeming feature of that battle was my EC giving them hell. Dude made back his points, and the points of the over-heated Devs.


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Martel732 wrote:
You don't need to ask. Between gets hot and small templates, it's literally the worst weapon you can give devs.
It's done me favours. They aren't particularly good at all, but they do wonders on certain favorite units.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831310.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831310.page GMT Space Marine devastators AP 2 now. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831343.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831343.page GMT Space Marine devastators
Martel732 wrote:
There's too many other sources of AP 2 now.

Not disagreeing but at 15 points in a dev squad - they aren't that terrible. Being forced to take devs in many formations - they peak my interest from time to time. The only reason I don't take them is gets hot. A lot of times I just go heavy bolters.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831443.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831443.page GMT Space Marine devastators ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831451.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831451.page GMT Re:Space Marine devastators devs I built both of them 10-strong, one with 2x heavy bolter and 2x plasmacannon and the other with 2x lascannon and 2x missilelauncher (possibly with flakks). In combat they split for maximum output on targets. They also have free rhinos to make mobile firebase from missiles and heavybolters.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831553.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8831553.page GMT Re:Space Marine devastators devs with 2 Gravcannons in a Rhino. It works quite well, except when you do what I did once and whiff 8/10 shots at a Wraithknight...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8832619.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/698789/8832619.page GMT