<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Which is better......"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Which is better...... AP 4 or a chemical flamer S 4 AP 5 with shred and gets hot special rules?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699035/8827120.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699035/8827120.page GMT Which is better...... str (and actually str4 shred will cause more wounds on average than str5) but the "Gets Hot" kills it entirely. Flamers and Blasts with gets hot don't get to fire 1 in 6 times. That means at least 1 turn per game the template might not do anything, which often happens when you really need it.

Plus, Str5 has an occasional bonus of being useful against light vehicles. And more units depend on a 4+ armour that the Heavy Flamer would ignore.

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Against pretty much everything the heavy flamer is better. The only scenario I could get the chemical flamer to be better at was a T7 5+ target.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699035/8827247.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699035/8827247.page GMT Re:Which is better......
exaltedrage05 wrote:
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The only scenario I could get the chemical flamer to be better at was a T7 5+ target.

Which doesn't exist to my knowledge. At first I thought Artillery fit the bill, but even if the crew only have a 5+/6+ save, the gun model will have a 3+. And if you have managed to get close enough to flame Artillery, just charge them.
#Heavyflameralldayeveryday]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699035/8827315.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699035/8827315.page GMT Re:Which is better...... http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699035/8827327.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699035/8827327.page GMT Re:Which is better......
 sub-zero wrote:
Thanks for the replies guys. This is for a chaos renegade army using the Purge formation. Is it safe to say that upgrading to a chemical flamer from a standard infantry flamer is a no-brainer though?

If it's a free upgrade, sure. If you pay 5pts, maybe, if more than 5, no.
5pts is a "maybe" because Gets Hot can really ruin your day, especially on models who don't; have a good save. Roll a 1 to hit, now your dude not only can't shoot, but will probably fail his save and die. If your dude is expendable, go for it, Shred makes flamers pretty brutal]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699035/8827346.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699035/8827346.page GMT Re:Which is better......
 Galef wrote:
 sub-zero wrote:
Thanks for the replies guys. This is for a chaos renegade army using the Purge formation. Is it safe to say that upgrading to a chemical flamer from a standard infantry flamer is a no-brainer though?

If it's a free upgrade, sure. If you pay 5pts, maybe, if more than 5, no.
5pts is a "maybe" because Gets Hot can really ruin your day, especially on models who don't; have a good save. Roll a 1 to hit, now your dude not only can't shoot, but will probably fail his save and die. If your dude is expendable, go for it, Shred makes flamers pretty brutal


Yea, the Purge formation lets you upgrade to a chemical flamer for free.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699035/8827448.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699035/8827448.page GMT