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With scouts either running bikes with locater beacon or helping plasmacannons with ignore cover. plus outflanking tacticals. I see this a versatile army with lots of options in deployment, pregame decisions and first strikes. What are your thoughts on this?

+++ New Roster (1848pts) +++

++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (SM RG Talon Strike Force) (1268pts) ++

+ (No Category) +

Chapter Tactics [Raven Guard]

+ Core (928pts) +

'Pinion Battle Demi-Company * (928pts) [Shadow Captain Shrike]
····Assault Squad [Jump Packs, Replace Bolt Pistol and Chainsword with an Eviscerator, 4x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
····Devastator Squad [4x Plasma Cannon, 4x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Scout Bike Squad [Scout Biker, Scout Biker]
········Scout Biker Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Locater Beacon]
····Scout Bike Squad [Scout Biker, Scout Biker]
········Scout Biker Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Locater Beacon]
····Scout Squad [4x Boltgun, 4x Scouts]
········Scout Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Scout Squad [4x Boltgun, 4x Scouts]
········Scout Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Scout Squad [4x Boltgun, 4x Scouts]
········Scout Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Tactical Squad [4x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Tactical Squad [4x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Tactical Squad [4x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]

+ Auxiliary (340pts) +

'Shadowstrike Kill Team * (340pts)
····Scout Squad [4x Boltgun, 4x Scouts]
········Land Speeder Storm [Heavy Bolter]
········Scout Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Scout Squad [4x Boltgun, 4x Scouts]
········Land Speeder Storm [Heavy Bolter]
········Scout Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Vanguard Veteran Squad
········Veteran [Lightning Claw, Lightning Claw]
········Veteran [Lightning Claw, Lightning Claw]
········Veteran [Lightning Claw, Lightning Claw]
········Veteran [Lightning Claw, Lightning Claw]
········Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Power Fist]

++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) (580pts) ++

+ (No Category) +

Chapter Tactics [Raven Guard]

+ Formation (580pts) +

'Skyhammer Annihilation Force (580pts)
····Assault Squad [Jump Packs, Replace Bolt Pistol and Chainsword with an Eviscerator, 4x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Combat Shield, Thunder Hammer]
····Assault Squad [Jump Packs, Replace Bolt Pistol and Chainsword with an Eviscerator, 4x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Combat Shield, Thunder Hammer]
····Devastator Squad [4x Heavy Bolter, 4x Space Marines]
········Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Devastator Squad [4x Multi-melta, 4x Space Marines]
········Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699215/8830854.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699215/8830854.page GMT IMO it's a much more useful unit.

5 scout bikes is too many IMO - take 2 or 3.
Shriek is also not really helpful here. Just take a chaplain with a the relic jump pack and call it a day.

Then you can fit more vangards and give them good weapons. Powerfist/ LC combo is their best setup - followed by power weapon/lc and a strom shield.

Plasma cannons with ignore cover are awesome - but you really don't need help with anti infantry - you need anti tank. Las cannons will probably work better.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699215/8831547.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/699215/8831547.page GMT
Couldnt fit so much specialweapons to vanguards. But shrike to shifted with a chaplain and devastators now have lascannons. Better?

Oh btw the scout bikes have 3 models each.


+++ New Roster (1848pts) +++

++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (SM RG Talon Strike Force) (1213pts) ++

+ (No Category) +

Chapter Tactics [Raven Guard]

+ Core (943pts) +

'Pinion Battle Demi-Company * (943pts)
····Assault Squad [Jump Packs, 9x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
····Chaplain
········Power Armour [Bolt Pistol, Crozius Arcanum, Raven's Fury]
····Devastator Squad [4x Lascannon, 4x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Scout Bike Squad [Scout Biker, Scout Biker]
········Scout Biker Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Locater Beacon]
····Scout Bike Squad [Scout Biker, Scout Biker]
········Scout Biker Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Locater Beacon]
····Scout Squad [4x Boltgun, 4x Scouts]
········Scout Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Scout Squad [4x Boltgun, 4x Scouts]
········Scout Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Scout Squad [Camo Cloaks, 4x Scouts, 4x Sniper Rifle]
········Scout Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Sniper Rifle]
····Tactical Squad [4x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Tactical Squad [4x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Tactical Squad [4x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]

+ Auxiliary (270pts) +

'Shadowstrike Kill Team * (270pts)
····Scout Squad [4x Boltgun, 4x Scouts]
········Scout Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Scout Squad [4x Boltgun, 4x Scouts]
········Scout Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Vanguard Veteran Squad
········Veteran [Lightning Claw, Lightning Claw]
········Veteran [Lightning Claw, Lightning Claw]
········Veteran [Lightning Claw, Lightning Claw]
········Veteran [Power Sword, Storm Shield]
········Veteran Sergeant [Lightning Claw, Power Fist]

++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) (635pts) ++

+ (No Category) +

Chapter Tactics [Raven Guard]

+ Formation (635pts) +

'Skyhammer Annihilation Force (635pts)
····Assault Squad [Jump Packs, 9x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Combat Shield]
····Assault Squad [Jump Packs, 9x Space Marines]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
····Devastator Squad [4x Heavy Bolter, 4x Space Marines]
········Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
····Devastator Squad [4x Multi-melta, 4x Space Marines]
········Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
········Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
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