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				<title>[1850] - Orkz - Zhadsnark's Speed Freeks</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Howdy, Dakka.  Been a long, long time.  I've been going through some stuff and came across my old Orkz.  Figured I may dust them off and update them a bit, so I've been doing some research.<br /> <br /> Please note:  I do not own all these models.  I'll have to work at building this back up--I have a bunch of bikes, but not nearly this much.  So let me know if you think it's worth the investment!<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Zhadsnark "Da Rippa":  150 pts<br /> -Warlord<br /> <br /> Painboy:  75 pts<br /> -Warbike<br /> <br /> TROOPS:<br /> 15 Warbikers:  310 pts<br /> -Nob w/Power Klaw and Bosspole<br /> <br /> 6 Warbikers:  148 pts<br /> -Nob w/Power Klaw and Bosspole<br /> <br /> 6 Warbikers:  148 pts<br /> -Nob w/Power Klaw and Bosspole<br /> <br /> 6 Warbikers:  148 pts<br /> -Nob w/Power Klaw and Bosspole<br /> <br /> 6 Warbikers:  148 pts<br /> -Nob w/Power Klaw and Bosspole<br /> <br /> 6 Warbikers:  148 pts<br /> -Nob w/Power Klaw and Bosspole<br /> <br /> FAST ATTACK:<br /> 3 Warbuggies:  75 pts<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rokkit Launchas<br /> <br /> 3 Warbuggies:  75 pts<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rokkit Launchas<br /> <br /> Dakkajet:  145 pts<br /> -Extra <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Supa-Shoota, Flyboss<br /> <br /> HEAVY SUPPORT:<br /> 10 Lootas:  140 pts<br /> <br /> 10 Lootas:  140 pts<br /> <br /> Yes, the Lootas are out-of-theme.  I'm okay making that sacrifice to have Lootas take out light armor, walkers, etc.  Plus, thematically, SOMEONE has to patch up the bikes and loot the loot, you know?  Maybe they ride sissy on the Warbikers in between battles.  I don't know!  It's madness.<br /> <br /> Basic strategy:  Zhadsnark and the Painboy join up with the big unit of bikers and go wreck faces.  The rest of the bikes shoot and assault as needed.  The buggies are there because they're cheap as chips and it's hard for me to turn down a mobile <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rokkit for the points.  Heck, they're practically twice the cost of a Boy with a Rokkit, but they're fast, they're largely immune to small arms fire (I did say largely), and they're just kinda cool.<br /> <br /> I admit I'm somewhat split on the Dakkajet at the moment.  I could take another 10 Lootas for roughly the same cost.  What do you guys think?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Barkdreg Badtoof]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1850] - Orkz - Zhadsnark's Speed Freeks</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Having been playing bikes lately i quite enjoy them and they are effective. They are one of the few things that give any given ork army an edge.<br /> between lootas and a dakkajets i have had sucess with both but a dakkajets shooting is more reliable and on a waaagh it shots a gak ton of shots. <br /> also in many situations the dakkajets safer than lootas, but can also get unlucky and die easy as well as say not come on till turn 3 or 4 whereas lootas could be shooting the whole time.<br /> i have combined both to effect. relying on just 1 or the other it tough.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:47:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dojo]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like your list and I have recently made one similar for a tournament at the end of the month.  I love bikes for several reasons but mainly it's their shooting.  Weird right orks and shooting, who knew?  The bikes get 3 twin linked S5 shots so they shoot better then their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> 2 would belie.  For this reason I decided to take more of  them over Lootas .  Yes I know the Lootas are S7 but they aren't Mobile or as tough and not as utility as the bikers.  Especially if you end up playing maelstrom you'll need mobility.  Not to mention I'm a typical ork dice roller and I know Murphy and his law quite well when it comes to shooting.  I can't count the number of times I needed a lot of S7 shots from my Lootas and I rolled to only get 1 shot each at <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> 2.  The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> rokkit buggies will pick up the slack for tank/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> shooting where the bikes can't.  Plus they are also fast.  I've found recently that orks are the best shooty army in my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(211);'>LGS</span> based just on the amount of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> shots I can put down range.  Also the more bikes in the unit or the more min sizes squads you have the better their chances of not running from failed morale.  A lone nob can't kill itself from mob rule by the way,  handy thing to remember if using both min squads. I won a cluch objective that way last turn of the game to pull out a win. (Reminds me of ok Akon song "sole survivor"). Here's my list for comparison albeit mine is for lower point game.  I'd forgo the dakkajet too and take rokkit koptas.  I like them better I've never done much with her.  It always comes it late for me and it can't turn on a dime when needed like the koptas.  Plus that's more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> S8 AP3 with koptas and they have 2 wounds.<br /> <br /> ork horde detachment<br /> <br /> <br /> Zhadsnark 150 gives unit (2+ cover for unit with skilled rider turbo boost and jink) gives unit scout <br /> <br /> Painboy bike 100<br /> <br /> Warboss bike lucky stick, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> 135pts<br /> (Reroll the 2+covers by riding in front)<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 11x Warbikers nob <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span> 238pts (attach zhad, pain, and boss)<br /> <br /> 3x Warbikers nob bc <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span> 74pts<br /> <br /> 3x Warbikers nob bc <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span> 74pts<br /> <br /> 3x Warbikers nob bc <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span> 74pts<br /> <br /> Fast<br /> 5x Deffkoptas <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>tl</span> rokkits 150<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:27:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ TheunlikelyGamer]]></author>
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