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				<description><![CDATA[ So as i come closer to finishing my 2k/1850 list of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span>, im planning for my next 1000 points. This is meant to be a fluffy list, with the hunting for the fallen theme through out it. Through games i have played with my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> i have discovered my weakness is horde armies, as i dont have the model count to handle the bucket of dice thrown at me. Either way, this is my 3k list, what do you all thing of it? <br /> <br /> <br /> <u><b>Deathwing strike force </b></u><br /> <br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: 135 <br /> Lib in term armor <br /> Foe Smiter <br /> Level 2 <br /> Force axe <br /> <br /> <br /> Elites <br /> <br /> Deathwing command squad 260 <br /> Champion <br /> Apothocary <br /> Cyclone missile launcher <br /> Chain fist <br /> <br /> Deathwing Knights: 235 <br /> <br /> Deathwing Terminators 225 <br /> Assault canon <br /> Chain fist <br /> <br /> Deathwing Terminators 220 <br /> Plasma canon <br /> Chain fist 
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<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:115 <br /> Lib on bike <br /> Force sword <br /> Bolt pistol <br /> Melta bombs <br /> Level 2 <br /> <br /> Elites: 295 <br /> Black Knight Command Squad <br /> black knights x6 <br /> Champion <br /> Apothocary <br /> Grande launcher <br /> Company banner <br /> <br /> <br /> Fast attack <br /> <br /> Ravenwing Bike Squad 90 <br /> Chain sword <br /> Grav gun <br /> <br /> Ravenwing Bike Squad 90 <br /> Chain sword <br /> Grav gun <br /> <br /> Ravenwing Bike Squad 90 <br /> Chain sword <br /> Grav gun <br /> <br /> Dark Shroud95 <br /> Assault canon 
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<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: 125<br /> Chaplin<br /> Jump pack<br /> Power sword<br /> Crozius Arcanum<br /> melta bomb<br /> <br /> Assault Squad: 90<br /> Jump packs<br /> Melta bomb<br /> Chain swords bolt pistols <br /> <br /> Devastator Squad:185<br /> Heavy bolter<br /> Laz cannon<br /> Plasma cannon x2<br /> Razor back heavy bolter<br /> <br /> Dreadnaught: 115<br /> Powerfist<br /> Twin linked laz canon<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad: 215<br /> Plasma Canon<br /> Plasma Gun<br /> Combi Melta<br /> Rhino<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad: 215<br /> Plasma Canon<br /> Plasma Gun<br /> Combi Melta<br /> Rhino<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad: 205<br /> Multi Melta<br /> Melta Gun<br /> Combi Flamer<br /> Drop pod
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</div><br /> <br /> My big issue aside from horde armies was surviving the alpha strike, with 2k points i was only fielding the raven wing which meant I had to hope they did not get blasted off the field.  That said once the deathwing showed up, i always end up obliterating a squad or even up to three with their twin linked weapons on the field, then they have a hard time getting through the 2+ armor save.<br /> <br /> With this list, i hope to utilize the green wing to help hold objective, taking advantage of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> 3 over watch they get.  The dread would hang back with the devastator squad and just work on popping hard targets <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ At 3000 points you should consider a full Battle Company within a Lion's Blade. I think those Terminators can be within the Lion's Blade as well.  Full <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> Overwatch is a big deal.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That's a really good point, making that list now, question I have though, with the Deathwing redemption force, on the turn I choose, 2 3 or 4 do they automatically come in? Or do I still need to roll reserves?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/77de89ee93f57978239e896f2fc0dd08.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/700262/8853522.page"><b>Backspacehacker wrote:</b></a><br/>That's a really good point, making that list now, question I have though, with the Deathwing redemption force, on the turn I choose, 2 3 or 4 do they automatically come in? Or do I still need to roll reserves?</div></blockquote>Automatically, just like it says.<br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> Strike force would be more problematic to add to a Lion's Blade (you could just leave it as an additional detachment), but you can certainly turn the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Strike Force into a Redemption Force easily, turning it and the Demi into a Lion's Blade.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well according to battle scribe, need to verify in my codex at home, I can also add a raven wing strike force. Kinda want to for the teleport homers because if i were to run a full lions blade with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> I don't want them scattering or mishaping.  But at that point the list would grow up to a 3.5 or 4k list ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah the Ravenwing Strike Force can be a separate detachment outside of the Lion's Blade. That's fine; they don't often need Overwatch.<br /> <br /> If you need to trim points, keep the power armor squads within the Battle Company very lean. Just one or two special weapons, no upgrades to Razorbacks.  See Brandon Grant's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(650);'>BAO</span>-winning Lion's Blade for inspiration.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/bc49b3d9cef775ab7f74057f04918876.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/700262/8853821.page"><b>axisofentropy wrote:</b></a><br/>Yeah the Ravenwing Strike Force can be a separate detachment outside of the Lion's Blade. That's fine; they don't often need Overwatch.<br /> <br /> If you need to trim points, keep the power armor squads within the Battle Company very lean. Just one or two special weapons, no upgrades to Razorbacks.  See Brandon Grant's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(650);'>BAO</span>-winning Lion's Blade for inspiration.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> I saw that list, was thinking maybe run the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads as you said, very lean, possibly only taking a special weapon per 5 and toss them all in razor backs. <br /> <br /> Even might keep the devastator squads lean with only a laz cannon or plasma canon so i can squeeze in the raven wing strike force force<br /> <br /> Ok so I was able to rewrite it to make it a bit more beefy then the bay area open since i have that luxury.  I could do things to make this list better with the ravenwing, but due to the fact i really dont wanna pain bikes, im keeping what i have, plus give me more map coverage with safe deep striking.<br /> <br /> I wanted to focus on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> two with this list since ill have 6 heavy bolters on the field from my razor backs that should make short work of any horde armies, or if i decide to hold ground. Also with how they are kitted if i so choose i can roll these into a single full strength battle demi company<br /> <br /> <u><b><br /> Lions blade</b></u><br /> <br /> Battle company<br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Chaplin jet pack Melta bombs<br /> Company master<br /> <br /> Assault Marine Squad One:<br /> Jet Packs<br /> Melta Bomb<br /> <br /> Assault Marine Squad Two:<br /> Jet packs<br /> Melta Bomb<br /> <br /> Devastator Squad One:<br /> Razor back <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span><br /> Las Cannon<br /> Plasma cannon x2<br /> <br /> Devastator Squad Two:<br /> Razor back <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span><br /> Las Cannon<br /> Plasma cannon x2<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad One:<br /> Razorback <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span><br /> Plasmagun<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad Two:<br /> Razorback <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span><br /> Plasma Cannon<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad Three:<br /> Drop Pod<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span><br /> Melta Bomb<br /> Combi Melta<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad Four:<br /> Razorback <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span><br /> Plasmagun<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad Five:<br /> Razorback <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span><br /> Plasma Cannon<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad Six:<br /> Drop Pod<br /> Melta Bomb<br /> Meltagun<br /> Combi Melta
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<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: 135 <br /> Lib in term armor <br /> Foe Smiter <br /> Level 2 <br /> Force axe <br /> <br /> <br /> Elites <br /> <br /> Deathwing command squad 260 <br /> Champion <br /> Apothocary <br /> Cyclone missile launcher <br /> Chain fist <br /> <br /> Deathwing Knights: 235 <br /> <br /> Deathwing Terminators 225 <br /> Assault canon <br /> Chain fist <br /> <br /> Deathwing Terminators 220 <br /> Plasma canon <br /> Chain fist
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<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:115 <br /> Lib on bike <br /> Force sword <br /> Bolt pistol <br /> Melta bombs <br /> Level 2 <br /> <br /> Elites: 295 <br /> Black Knight Command Squad <br /> black knights x6 <br /> Champion <br /> Apothocary <br /> Grande launcher <br /> Company banner <br /> <br /> <br /> Fast attack <br /> <br /> Ravenwing Bike Squad 90 <br /> Chain sword <br /> Grav gun <br /> <br /> Ravenwing Bike Squad 90 <br /> Chain sword <br /> Grav gun <br /> <br /> Ravenwing Bike Squad 90 <br /> Chain sword <br /> Grav gun <br /> <br /> Dark Shroud95 <br /> Assault canon<br /> 
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				<description><![CDATA[ Is that the 3000 you were looking for?<br /> <br /> Try to field an odd number of drop pods so the majority arrive first turn.<br /> <br /> Grav guns on Ravenwing are good, but one or two grav cannons in a Rhino are really really good.<br /> <br /> Whoever your Warlord is should prolly have Shroud of Heroes.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/bc49b3d9cef775ab7f74057f04918876.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/700262/8854488.page"><b>axisofentropy wrote:</b></a><br/>Is that the 3000 you were looking for?<br /> <br /> Try to field an odd number of drop pods so the majority arrive first turn.<br /> <br /> Grav guns on Ravenwing are good, but one or two grav cannons in a Rhino are really really good.<br /> <br /> Whoever your Warlord is should prolly have Shroud of Heroes.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I was gonna run the Terminator Lib as the warlord.]]></description>
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