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im thinking of upping it to 1750 and heading to a Throne of Skulls tournament at some point and cant quite decide what to add to make the extra 250pts...

this is the 1500:

[demi company 1]

Company Master - combi-plasma

Dreadnought - multi-melta, drop pod

Tactical squad - grav cannon, combi grav, drop pod

Tactical Squad - plasma cannon, combi plasma, razorback with lascannons

Tactical Squad - Multi-melta, combi melta, razorback

Assault Squad - flamer, razorback

Devastator Squad - 4 missile launchers, razorback with lascannons

[demi company 2]

Chaplain

Dreadnought - multimelta, drop pod

Tactical Squad - plasma gun, combi plasma, razorback

Tactical Squad - melta gun, combi melta, razorback

Tactical Squad - flamer, combi flamer, razorback

Assault Squad - flamer, razorback

Devastator Squad - 4 missile launchers, razorback with lascannons

[auxillary]

Scout Squad - 5 snipers, camo cloaks


1500pts spot on (all squads are 5-man)



obviously fails miserably in kill points games, but having so many objective secured units that overwatch as full BS has proven VERY effective. i have tried a few different options to make up the 250pts, i'll list them below. just wondering which one/s people like or if there are any others people can suggest (though obviously keeping to the msu theme)

option 1 (currently my favorite) - each demi company gaining a veteran squad with plasma gun in a razorback with lascannons

option 2 - allied flier wing (i have no real anti-air). 2 base stormhawks is 250pts and would hopefully scare off some fliers, stormtalon wing with skyhammmers also possible (either way, using iron hands for iwnd)

option 3 - 2 librarians, both level 2, with combi weapon and terminator armour. not a big fan of this option but they were quite useful against a white scars grav army recently (that snap fire power on interromancy is incredible for 1 warp charge!)

option 4 - ravenwing attack squadron, 3 attack bikes with multi meltas, land speeder with multi melta and typhoon missile launcher

option 5 - 2 ravenwing squadrons, first with 1 attack bike with multimelta and land speeder multi melta +typhoon, other has 1 attack bike with multi-melta and land speeder with multi melta and heavy flamer


any thoughts + ideas :-)

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8872750.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8872750.page GMT [1750] - dark angels - (ToS) battle company devs razorback for a rhino as they cannot fire out of the razorback. I run a double demi company and stack plasma in all the squads. I run 2 pods of vets with combi meltas. 2 squads of devs with grav cannons in rhinos. It gives me almost 29 kill points but gives over whelming firepower. The games I have lost using itc rules i have lost by a single point. The ones I win it is almost a blow out. The lions blade works best as a board control army. Rush the middle board and let them break upon the walls of your fire power.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8875633.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8875633.page GMT [1750] - dark angels - (ToS) battle company
What about lascannons on the devastators? That'll give you some more options for dealing with big MCs or AV14, at any rate.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8875943.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8875943.page GMT [1750] - dark angels - (ToS) battle company Devs are probably just positioned in a safe area in the rear. What about adding a group of terminators? The deep strike option could be a fun little scare tactic for diverting your opponent away from another objective plus the deathwing terminators have fearless and stubborn so they are hard to push back]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8876040.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8876040.page GMT [1750] - dark angels - (ToS) battle company http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8876505.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8876505.page GMT [1750] - dark angels - (ToS) battle company
I would love to have more grav cannons but i like the variety of weapons i have now

I think the only thing this list lacks is a decent chance against av14 and taking on fliers.... the stormhawks kind of help but not that great a range on their guns and effectively bs3 (but -2 to opponents reserves from the flier wing is useful). Im liking the veterans atm because the bring a tiny bit of ap2 and both with lascannon razorbacks should give a semi-reasonable chance to worry monsters and high av (to say nothing of the melta/grav i already have)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8876563.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8876563.page GMT [1750] - dark angels - (ToS) battle company http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8876582.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8876582.page GMT [1750] - dark angels - (ToS) battle company
2 vet squads in drop pods would give me enough points for them to have 7 combi weapons between them....

Unless you can recommend dropping something but I do like the original list as it is...


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Stalked21 wrote:
[...] What about adding a group of terminators? [...]


Would love to but trying to keep to the lions blade detachment.... means a minimum of 500+pts to field terminators, before any upgrades and/or weapons :-(]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8879295.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8879295.page GMT Re:[1750] - dark angels - (ToS) battle company
Just my 2 cents!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8880617.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8880617.page GMT Re:[1750] - dark angels - (ToS) battle company
 ZergSmasher wrote:
For 1750, maybe drop the Scouts and make a Ravenwing Attack Squadron your auxiliary. Take the full 6 bikes with 2 grav guns, attack bike with multimelta, and a Typhoon land speeder. Combat squad the bikes so 2 units of 3 bikes and the attack bike. I personally love my Ravenwing, and their rerollable jink save makes them plenty durable. Perhaps instead of taking the full size squadron, take just a Typhoon speeder and 3 bikes with 2 grav guns, and then take a Libby on bike as a command choice.

Just my 2 cents!
This is good advice.


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Adding Ravenwing does mean making the power armor dudes leaner. just one or two upgrades per unit is fine. Look at how lean Brandon Grant's BAO-winning list is.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8880760.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8880760.page GMT [1750] - dark angels - (ToS) battle company
Dunno how popular fliers are nowadays... my local store/clubs have basically none but was a little worried...

What would uou suggest dropping/changing to fit the ravenwing in? I have the above list built and have started painting so am reluctant to get new stuff


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Never mind my last question.... dropping the scouts fits the ravenwing perfectly :-)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8883647.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8883647.page GMT [1750] - dark angels - (ToS) battle company ATC tournament allowed the new Death from the Skies supplement so there were a lot of flyer-spam armies but most tournaments are not allowing that supplement so flyers will remain rare.

You can drop the dreads and some combi-weapons, but it's harder to fit another detachment in at 1750 than at 1850 so don't worry about it too much.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8884320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8884320.page GMT [1750] - dark angels - (ToS) battle company
 axisofentropy wrote:
The ATC tournament allowed the new Death from the Skies supplement so there were a lot of flyer-spam armies but most tournaments are not allowing that supplement so flyers will remain rare.

You can drop the dreads and some combi-weapons, but it's harder to fit another detachment in at 1750 than at 1850 so don't worry about it too much.


Thanks. Most of the tournaments i go to are gw-run affairs so anything current is allowed (from the event pack for the last throne of skulls, forgeworld was allowed, but not 30k)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8884390.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8884390.page GMT [1750] - dark angels - (ToS) battle company http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8884954.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701080/8884954.page GMT