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				<description><![CDATA[ Talon Strike Force<br /> <br /> Battle Demi-Company<br /> <br /> Chaplain<br /> [90]<br /> <br /> (10) Tactical Squad<br /> Grav-gun, Grav-Cannon, Imperial Space Marine<br /> Drop Pod<br /> [225]<br /> <br /> (10) Tactical Squad<br /> Grav-gun, Grav-Cannon<br /> Drop Pod<br /> [225]<br /> <br /> (5) Tactical Squad<br /> Meltagun, Combi-Melta<br /> Drop Pod<br /> [125]<br /> <br /> (5) Assault Squad (Chaplain)<br /> 2x Flamers, Meltabomb<br /> Drop Pod<br /> [120]<br /> <br /> (10) Devestator Squad<br /> 4x Grav-Cannons<br /> Drop Pod<br /> [315]<br /> <br /> [1100]<br /> <br /> Shadowstrike Kill Team<br /> <br /> (5) Scout Squad<br /> Bolt Pistols, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCWs</span>, Combi-Melta<br /> Land Speeder Storm<br /> Heavy Bolter<br /> [105]<br /> <br /> (5) Scout Squad<br /> Bolt Pistols, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCWs</span>, Combi-Melta<br /> Land Speeder Storm<br /> Heavy Bolter<br /> [105]<br /> <br /> (9) Vanguard Veterans <br /> Jump Packs<br /> 2x Storm Shields, 2x Power Fist, 2x Power Axes, 2x Power Sword<br /> [268] <br /> <br /> (9) Vanguard Veterans <br /> Jump Packs<br /> 2x Storm Shields, 2x Power Fist, 2x Power Axes, 2x Power Sword<br /> [268]<br /> <br /> [746]<br /> <br /> [1846]<br /> <br /> In this day and age of hyper-competitive lists - how does this look? Viable? I know it will get rolled by some armies probably hard, but can it compete in a semi-competitive environment?<br /> <br /> The idea is to have the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(440);'>LSS</span> Scouts get into position on T1 to help the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(671);'>VV</span> land without scatter, so they can assault on that turn. They will have Shrouded too, helping them some against nastier Overwatch. I have at least three Drop Pods on T1 automatically, plus a 4+ to bring in the other two. So there is a good chance most, if not all, of my army will deploy on T1. Loads of Grav to help chew up nasty stuff, with at least one dedicated Melta squad to shoot up stuff that might benefit from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(1);'>2d6</span> and the AP1. ISM present because why not? He can split off with the Grav-Gun and shoot one unit while the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(583);'>GC</span> shoots another. 14 total ObjSec units, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span>. Not too shabby. <br /> <br /> Thoughts? Ideas?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You can add a Cataphractii Terminator Captain under the Command choice (gotta give up points elsewhere)  and join him to the Devastators to give them Relentless. You need to drop down to 8 Devastators.  Also, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span>, a Cherub may be worthwhile.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 31 Aug 2016 15:09:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sarigar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0c824016eca30d4a97b274026c8a1d2b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701101/8873411.page"><b>Sarigar wrote:</b></a><br/>You can add a Cataphractii Terminator Captain under the Command choice (gotta give up points elsewhere)  and join him to the Devastators to give them Relentless. You need to drop down to 8 Devastators.  Also, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span>, a Cherub may be worthwhile.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Doesn't seem worth it, plus I really hate how abusive that is. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 31 Aug 2016 15:18:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Abusive? To each their own.  Buffing units with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(136);'>USR</span> is extremely significant in 7th edition. This unit gives 20 shots, 5 which are BS5 and a Cherub to reroll another model.  However, I also used the Pinion Demi Company so I had Scouts granting Ignore Cover as well as Scout Biker Sergeants with Locator Beacons.  This is what I've used to first turn kill Wraithknights on the drop.  All depends on what you tend to play against. <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 31 Aug 2016 19:17:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sarigar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0c824016eca30d4a97b274026c8a1d2b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701101/8874052.page"><b>Sarigar wrote:</b></a><br/>Abusive? To each their own.  Buffing units with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(136);'>USR</span> is extremely significant in 7th edition. This unit gives 20 shots, 5 which are BS5 and a Cherub to reroll another model.  However, I also used the Pinion Demi Company so I had Scouts granting Ignore Cover as well as Scout Biker Sergeants with Locator Beacons.  This is what I've used to first turn kill Wraithknights on the drop.  All depends on what you tend to play against. <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yes, abusive. Clearly not the intent of the rule. I enjoy strong lists, but that is just over-the-top. And Pinion is all well and good, but it doesn't seem worth losing Obj Sec across the board.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 31 Aug 2016 22:50:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Again.  To each their own.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 1 Sep 2016 01:38:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sarigar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Any other input to make this list hold up to the more competitive lists out there?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:46:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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