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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm getting ready to head to a bunch of tournaments over the next few month and I am waffling over which of my three lists to take. Its been a year since I played in any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(48);'>GTs</span> or non local tournaments, so I'm not sure as to how viable these lists would be.<br /> <br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<br /> List 1 - Bikes and Flyers<br /> <u><br /> <b>Space Marine CaD (White Scars <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span>)</b></u><br /> <br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b><br /> Librarian - ML2, Force Stave, Bike, The Hunters Eye - 130 Points<br /> Chapter Master - Artificer Armor, Bike, Storm Shield, Glaive of Vengance - 215 Points<br /> <br /> <b>Elites</b><br /> Command Squad - Bikes, 4 Grav Guns, 4 Storm Shields, Apothecary - 240 Points<br /> <br /> <b>Troops</b><br /> Bike Squad - 2 Grav Gun Bikers, Sgt. w/ Combi-Grav - 103 Points<br /> Bike Squad - 2 Grav Gun Bikers, Sgt. w/ Combi-Grav - 103 Points<br /> Bike Squad - 2 Melta Gun Bikers, Sgt. w/ Combi-Melta - 93 Points<br /> Bike Squad - 2 Melta Gun Bikers, Sgt. w/ Combi-Melta - 93 Points<br /> <br /> <u><b>Raptor Wing Formation</b></u><br /> <br /> Land Speeder - Heavy Bolter, Multimelta - 60 Points<br /> Stormtalon Gunship - Skyhammer Missile Launcher - 115 Points<br /> Stormtalon Gunship - Skyhammer Missile Launcher - 115 Points<br /> <br /> <b>Dark Angel's Ravenwing Strike Force</b><br /> <br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b><br /> Librarian - ML2, Bike, Force Sword - 110 Points<br /> <b><br /> Elites</b><br /> Ravenwing Command Squad - 5 Black Knights, Apothecary, Champion, Company Banner - 255 Points<br /> <b><br /> Fast Attack</b><br /> Ravenwing Attack Bike - Multimelta - 55 Points<br /> Ravenwing Dark Talon - 160 Points<br /> <br /> 1847 Points <br /> <br /> 
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<br /> List 2 - Alpha Strike<br /> <b><u>Talon Strike Force - Raven Guard <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span>)<br /> [u][b]Core - Pinion Demi Company</b></u><br /> <br /> Chaplain - Raven's Fury - 105 Points<br /> <br /> Scout Squad - 5 Scouts w/ Cloaks & Sniper Rifles - 70 Points<br /> <br /> Devastators - 5 Marines w/ 4 Lascannons - 150 Points<br /> <br /> Assault Squad - 5 Marines, 2 Flamers, Jump Pack, Meltabomb - 100 Points<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad - 5 Marines, Drop Pod, Meltagun, Combi-Melta - 125 Points<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad - 5 Marines, Drop Pod, Meltagun, Combi-Melta - 125 Points<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad - 5 Marines, Drop Pod, Gravgun, Combi-Grav, Anniversary Marine w/ Disintegration Gun - 130 Points<br /> <u><b><br /> Aux - Shadowstrike Kill Team</b></u><br /> <br /> Scouts - 5 Scouts w/ Boltguns - 65 Points<br /> <br /> Scouts - 5 Scouts w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span> and pistols, Land Speeder Storm w/ Multimelta - 105 Points<br /> <br /> Vanguard Veterans - 5 Veterans, 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, 3 double <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>, Jump Packs - 190 Points<br /> <br /> <u><b>Skyhammer Annhilation Force (Ultramarines <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span>)</b></u><br /> <br /> Assault Squad - 5 Marines, 2 Flamers, Jump Packs - 95 Points<br /> <br /> Assault Squad - 5 Marines, 2Flamers, Jump Packs - 95 Points<br /> <br /> Devastator Squad - 10 Marines w/ 4 Multimeltas, Drop Pod - 215 Points<br /> <br /> Devastator Squad - 10 Marines w/ 4 Plasma Cannons,  Drop Pod - 235 Points<br /> <br /> 1849 Points<br /> 
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<br /> List 3 - Daemonic Tetrad Incursion<br /> <b><u>Core - Tallyband</u></b><br /> Herald of Nurgle - Greater Locus of Fecundity, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> 1, Doomsday Bell - 125 Points<br /> Tallyband - 9 Plague Bearers, 1 Plagueridden - 95 Points<br /> Nurglings - 3 Nurglings - 45 Points<br /> Nurglings - 3 Nurglings - 45 Points<br /> Nurglings - 3 Nurglings - 45 Points<br /> Nurglings - 3 Nurglings - 45 Points<br /> Nurglings - 3 Nurglings - 45 Points<br /> Nurglings - 3 Nurglings - 45 Points<br /> <br /> <b><u>Aux - Daemon Flock</u></b><br /> Furies - 5 Furies - 35 Points<br /> <br /> <b><u>Command - Infernal Tetrad</u></b><br /> Khorne Daemon Prince - Flight, Armor of Scorn, 2 Greater Rewards, 1 Lesser Reward - 280 Points<br /> Nurgle Daemon Prince - Flight, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> 3, Warp Armor, 2 Greater Rewards - 335 Points <br /> Slaanesh Daemon Prince - Flight, Soulstealer, ML3, Armor, 2 Greater Rewards - 350 Points<br /> Tzeench Daemon Prince - Flight, Impossible Robe, ML3, 2 Greater Rewards, 1 Lesser Reward - 360 Points<br /> <br /> 1850 Points<br /> 
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</div><br /> <br /> I've used all 3 lists in local small tournaments to varied levels of success. List 1 relies alot on good placement for the automatic turn 2 reinforcements. List 2 has alot of turn 1 punch, but has trouble with armored lists and castling. List 3 is alot of fun, but I am constantly at the whims of the dice gods. <br /> <br /> I have other marine and daemon models that can be added if needed, as well as an Imperial Knight (Which I've never played below 2500 points, so I am not used to fitting them into tournament level lists.<br /> <br /> Any ideas, comments, or thoughts on improvements are welcome!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a7dd04a1922a237fbc353feda59d740e.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701110/8873532.page"><b>Torus wrote:</b></a><br/>looking forward to it...</div></blockquote> Fixed and Updated! Thank you for your patience!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would go with white scars <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701110/8874089.page"><b>alex0911 wrote:</b></a><br/>I would go with white scars <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote> Thanks for the input! That's the one I have the most experience playing. My big worry about them is that I have a low model count army and starts with half of it off the board. It makes me very wary of armies like Tau that can drown me in wounds.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701110/8874125.page"><b>Malaur wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/701110/8874089.page"><b>alex0911 wrote:</b></a><br/>I would go with white scars <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote> Thanks for the input! That's the one I have the most experience playing. My big worry about them is that I have a low model count army and starts with half of it off the board. It makes me very wary of armies like Tau that can drown me in wounds.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> We do all have the same problem with tau... They are broken with double stormsuck... Like you said, you dont have much on the board but I fell like you won't have much more if you play the tetrad.. By playing white scars and ravenwing your army still has a few squads and mobility <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> However, you must find a way to add a librarius conclave on your list. Why ? Cauz it is so <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <br /> I do like the Infernal Tetrad with the quad daemon princes, I've played it a few times and they certainly do well, whilst the decurion does give you reliability with the warp storm but I've also seen it do well with the princes + an allied detachment of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> marines (Cultists, Belakor and Helldrake) <br /> <br /> Second to that, I like the while scars list for it's turn 1 alpha damage and as you say you have a lot of experience with it... <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think the Tetrad works best with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span> of Tzeentch daemons to get more warp charges to buff the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span>'s.. Also with paradox on a herald or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span> you can guarantee reinforcements every turn.. I have had the most success with the Infernal Tetrad running it that way.]]></description>
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