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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi i am a long time fan of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> lore and video games and finally can afford to build myself  an army.  I played around in battlescribe and came up with this list after a little research.<br /> please critique my army i want my army to be good but not cheesy.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> (190pts)<br /> Tyberos the Red Wake, Carcharodons <br />  <br /> Elites (250pts)<br /> Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought <br /> 2x Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon, Lucius Pattern Dreadnought Drop Pod ) <br /> <br /> Troops (549pts)<br /> Tactical Squad <br /> 9x Space Marine w/ Bolter & Chainsword,<br /> Rhino -Storm Bolter <br /> Sergeant<br /> Bolt Pistol, Bolter <br /> Tactical Squad <br /> Rhino , 9x Space Marine w/ Bolter & Chainsword, <br /> Sergeant (1pts)<br /> Additional Chainsword, Carcharodons, Bolt Pistol, Bolter <br /> The Red Brethren, Carcharodons )<br /> Chapter Tactics - Carcharodons, 4x Lightning Claws Terminator ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Sep 2016 09:40:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tanka]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ First, welcome to Dakka.<br /> <br /> I’m not as fluent with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> stuff, but will give this a shot.<br /> <br /> Tyberos seems a decent guy<br /> <br /> Dread should be nasty, I’m not sure he needs the pod.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span> he’s a shooty dread, and while the pod will get him close enough to shoot, walking should be OK.  The Lucius is a bit pricy.<br /> <br /> What are you <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads doing?  While you can do a lot with a nice bolter drill, you might want to include your special weapon.  It will do a lot of work for the squad.<br /> <br /> I’m not a fan of footslogging assault terminators.  While a land raider is expensive, it generally works OKish.<br /> <br /> For a 1k list you have a lot of troops.  And not a lot of “bang”  Well, you have the dread, by that’s about it.  You’ve got a melee blender, but no way to get them into <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>.  And a whole lot of bolters.<br /> <br /> To build a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>TAC</span> list, you need to be able to do a number of things.<br /> <br /> Get troops to objectives and keep them there.  You have this.<br /> Thin out hordes, again, you should do OK here<br /> Pop heavy armor: The dread should be able to get some rends, Tyberos in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>.  For a 1k list, this might be enough.<br /> Medium/light armor.  Again, the dread is the only <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> in you list.<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span> Similar to medium armor, you have the dread.<br /> Flyers.<br /> <br /> If you look at the jobs that need to be done, anything other then kill light troops and camp objectives, the dread is doing all the lifting for your army.  That’s a single point of failure.<br /> <br /> Putting some melta/plasma/grav on your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads will them them cover more bases.<br /> Getting a transport for the termis will let them impact the battle more.<br /> <br /> You could safely drop a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad at this point level to free up some space for more toys.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Sep 2016 12:04:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1000] - space marines:carcharodons</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Alright made some changes exactly 1000 points<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> (190pts)<br /> Tyberos the Red Wake, Carcharodons (190pts)<br /> Chapter Master (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span>), Chapter Tactics - Carcharodons <br /> <br /> Elites (200pts)<br /> Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought (200pts)<br /> 2x Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon <br /> <br /> Troops (609pts)<br /> Tactical Squad (109pts)<br /> Rhino, 4x Space Marine w/ Bolter & Chainsword, Carcharodons <br /> Sergeant Bolt Pistol, Bolter, chainsword<br /> Tactical Squad (85pts)<br /> 4x Space Marine w/ Bolter & Chainsword, Carcharodons <br /> Sergeant Additional Chainsword, Carcharodons, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Combi-plasma <br /> The Red Brethren, Carcharodons (415pts)<br /> Chapter Tactics - Carcharodons, Land Raider Redeemer, 4x Lightning Claws Terminator <br /> no points to spare exactly 1000pt]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Sep 2016 19:10:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tanka]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1000] - space marines:carcharodons</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ dropped the contemptor dread for a plain dread and beefed up my tactical squad and stuck a melta on the land raider, got 40 points leftover not sure how to use them. <br /> .<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> (190pts)<br /> Tyberos the Red Wake, Carcharodons (190pts)<br /> <br /> Elites (120pts)<br /> Dreadnought Plasma Cannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon <br /> <br /> Troops (650pts)<br /> Tactical Squad (225pts)<br /> 7x Space Marine w/ Bolter & Chainsword, Carcharodons <br /> Rhino<br /> Storm Bolter <br /> Sergeant<br /> Additional Chainsword, Carcharodons, Bolter, Combi-plasma <br /> Space Marine w/ Grav-gun<br /> Chainsword, Carcharodons <br /> Space Marine w/ Multi-melta<br /> Chainsword, Carcharodons <br /> <br /> The Red Brethren, Carcharodons (425pts)<br /> Chapter Tactics - Carcharodons, 4x Lightning Claws Terminator <br /> Land Raider Redeemer<br /> Multi-melta ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Sep 2016 07:52:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tanka]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Generally I feel that Termies in a raider are quite expensive for a thousand point game, as they are almost half the points, but if you're set on taking them by all means go ahead. <br /> <br /> I also think a regular dread with mixed shooting is sorta a let down, maybe switch the plasma for another autocannon (if that is legal as I am not sure)<br /> <br /> with the extra points maybe give the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads a melta or plasma<br /> <br /> but you have a good base, and I am just suggesting improvements, but the list is plenty good for casual games!<br /> <br /> Happy Wargaming! <br /> <br /> ~Mikey]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Sep 2016 23:32:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ gummyofallbears]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1000] - space marines:carcharodons</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hey man thanks for reply I feel the same about the termanators costing to much the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad already has a melta, a plasma and, a grav gun. I have enough points left to upgrade. The rhino to a razerback and was thinking could I drop the land raider put the terminators in a drop pod. To free up some points.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 5 Sep 2016 00:10:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tanka]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Razorback is a good call definitely, especially with LasPlas (sorry for not noticing the loadout on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad) <br /> <br /> Termies in a drop pod sounds interesting at the very least, dropping them in would definitely work however. <br /> <br /> Maybe use the points for another dreadnought or another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad, as personally I feel that they are both quite good (although majority of people will disagree with me about the dreadnought) <br /> <br /> ~Mikey]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 5 Sep 2016 04:18:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ gummyofallbears]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1000] - space marines:carcharodons</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I was thinking of adding a another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>TAC</span> squad 2 and I am  new to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> ,why are dreads not considered good.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 5 Sep 2016 04:41:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tanka]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Im not quite sure, I've always had a blast fielding them and they have preformed quite well for my Wolves/DeathWatch<br /> <br /> I think it might be because they aren't incredibly survivable and they don't have a huge damage output, but I find that armour 12 is usually enough to be considered tough, and autocannons are quite good at killing light armour]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 5 Sep 2016 06:05:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ gummyofallbears]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1000] - space marines:carcharodons</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Added a 2nd <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad put  both of them in razorbacks, and put my termies in a drop pod.<br /> <br /> Tyberos the Red Wake, Carcharodons (190pts)<br /> Chapter Master (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span>), Chapter Tactics - Carcharodons <br /> Elites (120pts)<br /> Dreadnoughts (120pts)<br /> Dreadnought<br /> Plasma Cannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon <br /> Troops (655pts)<br /> Tactical Squad (240pts)<br /> 7x Space Marine w/ Bolter & Chainsword, Carcharodons <br /> Razorback<br /> Twin-linked Heavy Bolter <br /> Sergeant<br /> Additional Chainsword, Carcharodons, Bolter, Combi-plasma <br /> Space Marine w/ Grav-gun<br /> Chainsword, Carcharodons <br /> Space Marine w/ Multi-melta<br /> Chainsword, Carcharodons <br /> Tactical Squad (240pts)<br /> 7x Space Marine w/ Bolter & Chainsword, Carcharodons <br /> Razorback<br /> Twin-linked Heavy Bolter <br /> Sergeant<br /> Additional Chainsword, Carcharodons, Bolter, Combi-plasma <br /> Space Marine w/ Multi-melta<br /> Chainsword, Carcharodons <br /> Space Marine w/ Plasma Gun<br /> Chainsword, Carcharodons <br /> The Red Brethren, Carcharodons (175pts)<br /> Chapter Tactics - Carcharodons, 4x Lightning Claws Terminator <br /> Drop pod with strom bolter for red brethren ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ tanka]]></author>
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