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				<title>[1500] - Emperor's Knights  - Gaming list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm currently building the entire 2nd Company of my Emperor's Knights chapter (Primarch Unknown) but thought this might be a good starting point for my return into gaming proper.<br /> <br /> Loads of lists here are 1500 to 1850 points while my 2500 points prob scares people off!<br /> <br /> SO...<br /> <br /> 1500 Emperors Knights <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Captain Calcifer<br /> Artificer Armour<br /> Relic Blade<br /> 135<br /> <br /> Command Squad <br /> Apothecary<br /> Company Champion<br /> Standard of the Emperor Ascendant<br /> X 2 Power Swords<br /> X 1 Powerfist/ Storm Shield<br /> X 1 grav pistol<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Drop Pod <br /> 295<br /> <br /> ELITES<br /> <br /> Dreadnought<br /> Heavy Flamer in place of storm bolter<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Drop Pod w/ locator beacon<br /> 145<br /> <br /> Dreadnought<br /> Heavy Flamer in place of storm bolter<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Drop Pod<br /> 135<br /> <br /> Terminator Squad (5 man)<br /> Heavy Flamer<br /> Chainfists x 2<br /> 195<br /> <br /> TROOPS<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad (5 man)<br /> Combi-Melta on Sgt<br /> Flamer<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Razorback w/ t-l plasma gun & lascannon<br /> 160<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad (5 man)<br /> Combi-Melta on sgt<br /> Flamer<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Razorback w/ t-l plasma gun & lascannon<br /> 160<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad (5 man)<br /> Combi-Melta on sgt<br /> Flamer<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Razorback w/ t-l plasma gun & lascannon<br /> 160<br /> <br /> FAST ATTACK<br /> <br /> Stormtalon Gunship<br /> Skyhammer Missile Launcher<br /> 115<br /> <br /> <br /> Idea is...<br /> <br /> Captain goes with the Command Squad. That way he has 5 attacks on the charge AND <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FnP</span><br /> The command squad I KNOW is very pricey but it has a lot of attacks AND with the captain and storm shield and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FnP</span> can soak up some damage<br /> The 2 Dreadnoughts drop pod assault first turn to flame/melta whatever needs killing.<br /> Locator beacon can be used from turn 2 to bring in other reserves (captain, terminator squad, stormtalon)<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squads try to camp out on objectives with t-l plasma and lascannons hopefully killing any pesky AV2 stuff.<br /> <br /> <br /> Ideas?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Corennus]]></author>
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				<title>[1500] - Emperor's Knights  - Gaming list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Looks reasonable for friendly play.<br /> <br /> Relic blade captain is a decent jack-of-all-trades pick.  But don’t expect him to be able to deal with any serious threats.  Seems a little odd to have the budget captain in a command squad tricked out to the gills.  If he’s going to be tanking for the squad, you might want to invest in the shield eternal for the 3++ and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span>.<br /> <br /> For the points you are spending on the command squad, I might look into the other options.  Sure, you lose <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span>, but with vanguard vets or honor guard, you don’t have to pay the premium cost for all that wargear.   You can have a 9 man squad of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(337);'>HG</span> for the same points, with the chapter banner.  Or 9 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(671);'>VVs</span>, where everyone has a power weapon or better.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(337);'>HG</span> all have a 2+, and the +1A banner, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(671);'>VV</span> have some nice special rules and very flexible wargear.<br /> <br /> The other option would be to ditch all the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> stuff and run them as a plasma drop squad (or grav/melta).  The command squads ability to take multiple specials is quite nice, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span> the best place for them to shine.  <br /> <br /> (Full disclosure, I like the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> command squad, and have mine <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/810191-Command%20squad.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">set up like that</a> but a lot more minimalist.<br /> <br /> Dreads should do OK on the drop.  It might be worth investing in venerable dreads for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> if dropping in close with the single shot melta.  Depends a lot on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span> you are using.  If you have the points, upgrading to an ironclad would be nice.<br /> <br /> I like an assault cannon on my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> termis, and only take a single chainfist.  Massed powerfists should be able to deal with most things.  The chainfist is like a meltabomb, just in case.  If you do keep the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span>, consider capheracti terminators.  S&P might be a bit of a drawback, but the 4++ will help with survivability.  Also recognize that while fun, if you want to trim things out to make your list more competitive, these guys are first on the chopping block.<br /> <br /> If you are going melta, take the combi and the special.  A single melta shot is not going to do anything unless you get very lucky.  I might also prefer a few more troops at this point level.  You have a fairly low model count here.  5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(333);'>PA</span> bodies and a razor are not hard to shoot off an objective.<br /> <br /> I like the talon, fly mine the same way.<br /> <br /> For the points, I feel you need more bodies.  I’d either trim the command squad, or drop the terminators or one of the dreads.  If you drop a dread, move one of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads to a pod and bump it up to 10 men.  Or swap one of the razors out for a full squad in a rhino.  I might also consider re-jiggering the whole thing to a gladius.  It’s just a few swaps from a demi-co, and you could probably add a 1st co TF.  Have to drop the talon or make other changes though, so that’s a bit of a major change.<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 Sep 2016 14:39:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<title>[1500] - Emperor's Knights  - Gaming list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Okies I will consider.<br /> <br /> Honour Guard might be cool. Could bump up to Chapter Master maybe. <br /> <br /> Dropping a chainfist...ok. <br /> <br /> I'm trying to keep to 1500 points strictly.<br /> <br /> <br /> Taken some of your suggestions:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Captain Calcifer<br /> Artificer Armour<br /> Power Sword<br /> Digital Weapons<br /> 130<br /> <br /> Honour Guard (6 man)<br /> Chapter Banner<br /> Thunder Hammer on Champion<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Drop Pod <br /> 235<br /> <br /> <br /> ELITES<br /> <br /> Dreadnought<br /> Heavy Flamer in place of storm bolter<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Drop Pod w/ locator beacon<br /> 145<br /> <br /> Dreadnought<br /> Heavy Flamer in place of storm bolter<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Drop Pod<br /> 135<br /> <br /> Terminator Squad (5 man)<br /> Assault Cannon<br /> Chainfists x1<br /> 200<br /> <br /> TROOPS<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad (6 man)<br /> Combi-Melta on Sgt<br /> Melta <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Razorback w/ t-l plasma gun & lascannon<br /> 179<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad ( 6 man)<br /> Combi-Melta on sgt<br /> Melta<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Razorback w/ t-l plasma gun & lascannon<br /> 179<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad (6 man)<br /> Combi-Melta on sgt<br /> Melta<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Razorback w/ t-l plasma gun & lascannon<br /> 179<br /> <br /> FAST ATTACK<br /> <br /> Stormtalon Gunship<br /> Skyhammer Missile Launcher<br /> 115<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 1492<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 Sep 2016 14:56:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Corennus]]></author>
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