Neophyte2012 wrote:
You need 165pts for a min 10th company task force tax to form a legal Gladius strike, before that, there won't be free transports.

 Nevelon wrote:
It can be a suppression force. It just needs to be something from the selection of auxiliary choices. You could even take one of the huge ones, like the strike force ultra, but would have a hard time getting that under the point limit.

Overall your list looks OK. It’s hard to pay for all the bodies at lower points and still have what I think is acceptable upgrades. You’ve got a good mix though.

One thing that sticks out is the captain. Naked he’s a pure tax unit. I’d shave some points to give him some gear. If you have access to the AoD supplement, a capheracti TDA captain is S&P, which is a great thing to add to a squad of MM devs.

 Corennus wrote:
hi scoutsniper

The rules for the Gladius are:

1-2 Demi-Battle Company
0-3 Command Squads
1+ Auxilary Squads


Captain w/ MB -95pts

3x5 tac squad w/ grav gun -255pts

X5 assault marines w/ 2xflamers 80pts

X5 dev squad w/ 4x ML -130pts


Chaplain -90pts

3x5 tac squad w/ grav gun -255pts

X5 assault marines w/ x2 flamer 80pts

X5 dev squad w/ 4xLC -150pts


FORMATION
3x5 scouts -165pts

x10 free razorbacks with lasplas =200pts


1500pts



Personally i'm hating the Dev squads . Yes you get a lot of shotswith the HBs but they're only Strength 5, and so unless you want to shooting at infantry only from afar I would consider upgrading to lascannons or Plasma Cannons.
You Mullti-Melta Dev squad I don't really get. They are a Suicide unit? Drop in, melta ONE vehicle first turn then get entire army firing at them in second turn?

Change your Devs to long range where they belong. Plasma Cannons or Grav Cannons for the win!


Also consider combi-grav guns on Sgts for your tacticals. If your Grav Gun doesn't bring a vehicle down the sgt can take it with combi.

 Corennus wrote:
Better. What is the Captain taking?

If he's just a base model then consider taking the Chaplain. You get a power weapon for free!

What are scouts armed with?

Change the Lascannons to Missile Launchers on your second dev squad . you have enough las on the razorbacks

If you do that you can afford Artificer Armour for captain, make him more survivalble.
No point making Slay the Warlord an easy objective!

 Corennus wrote:
That's not a bad list now!

The alternative would be to drop art armour and give the scouts some sniper rifles...

 Nevelon wrote:
It would be nice to see the captain with at least a power weapon. You pay a lot for his CC stats, and a a PW gets you a lot more out of them. AA/power weapon is the minimum loadout I’d put him on the table with. Giving him a sword is more important then another grav gun in a tac squad IMHO.

MLs are kinda mediocre at everything. For the points, I’d rather have 4xLC and 4xHB then 8xML. Or even 3xLC in each squad.

I’d go melta (melta gun, c-melta sarge) on some of your tac squads. You are spamming a lot of AP2 on the razors, but there are still things out there that need a little melta lovin’.

If you are going to upgrade the scouts, I’d look into camo cloaks first, followed by snipers for a squad of them. Long term (higher points, variant lists) LSSs are very nice. But better for CC scouts or bolter guys.

 Corennus wrote:
I'd almost say if you're going to go Heavy Bolters on Dev squads go big and do both of them.

Would give you 30 points to tool up your Captain and also give a tac squad a combi-weapon

 Nevelon wrote:
Both lists look interesting, and should be viable. I like the captain/MM dev combo from the first one, but the second one more overall.

There are a lot of places to spend those last 10 points. One issue with cramming a full company list into 1,500 points is you can’t get all the upgrades you want.

Swap the LC on the captain for a relic blade. (trade shred for +2S)
Upgrade dev guns. Shift 2 MLs to LCs. (or 2 HBs to MLs)
Add some melta bombs. If the scouts are going to infiltrate up, they might be a good spot.
Combi weapons

 Nevelon wrote:
Felling lucky? The captain is pretty tough, but not invulnerable. I5 strikes before a lot of stuff, and almost everything that’s AP2. But while S6 is nice, there is a lot of very nasty things out there. And the relic blade is only AP3.

The TH sacrifices your nice initiative, but hitting at S8 AP2 will let you threaten pretty much everything.

I’d risk going for the TH. CTDA with a SS is pretty solid on defense. The only way to get better is to invest in relics. You may occasionally get punked before swinging, but that should not be that often. And the rest of the time you get to put the hammer down and crush thing.