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				<title>[1500] - Chaos Space Marines - Black Crusade</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ This is my starting concept for my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> army. I think of it as a similar concept to Demi company spamming OBSEC units though using two small melee semi-death Stars to fill in for the lack of grav. I play in a 50/50 fluffy competitive environment so I don't necessarily think it will win all the time but at least I can lose giving out a good game. Let me know what you think. Also what should I add if I were to up this to 1800?  Helol drakes or maybe cabal? <br /> <br /> +++ Black Crusade (1500pts) +++<br /> <br /> ++ Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) (Chaos <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> Black Crusade Detachment) (1500pts) ++<br /> <br /> + Core (1410pts) +<br /> <br /> Chaos Warband (710pts)<br /> Rules: Favoured Scions, Objective Secured<br /> ····Chaos Bikers (118pts) [Mark of Nurgle (18pts), 2x Meltagun (20pts)]<br /> ····Rules: Mark of Nurgle<br /> ········2x Chaos Biker (40pts) [2x Combi-bolter on Bike, 2x Frag Grenades, 2x Krak Grenades]<br /> ········Chaos Biker Champion (40pts) [Close Combat Weapon, Combi-bolter on Bike, Combi-flamer (10pts), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades]<br /> ········Rules: Champion of Chaos<br /> ····Chaos Lord (145pts) [Axe of Blind Fury (35pts), Bolt Pistol, Juggernaut of Khorne (35pts), Mark of Khorne (10pts)]<br /> ····Rules: Blinded, Champion of Chaos, Counter-Attack, Daemon Weapon, Fearless, Independent Character, Mark of Khorne, Rage<br /> ········Power Armour [Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades]<br /> ····Chaos Space Marines (110pts)<br /> ········Aspiring Champion (23pts) [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon]<br /> ········Rules: Champion of Chaos<br /> ········4x Chaos Marine with Boltgun (52pts) [4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Krak Grenades]<br /> ········Chaos Rhino (35pts) [Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers]<br /> ········Rules: Repair, Transport Capacity: Rhino<br /> ····Chaos Space Marines (110pts)<br /> ········Aspiring Champion (23pts) [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon]<br /> ········Rules: Champion of Chaos<br /> ········4x Chaos Marine with Boltgun (52pts) [4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Krak Grenades]<br /> ········Chaos Rhino (35pts) [Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers]<br /> ········Rules: Repair, Transport Capacity: Rhino<br /> ····Chaos Terminators (112pts)<br /> ····Rules: Deep Strike<br /> ········Chaos Terminator (36pts) [Combi-melta (5pts), Power Maul]<br /> ········Chaos Terminator (36pts) [Combi-melta (5pts), Power Maul]<br /> ········Terminator Champion (40pts) [Combi-melta (7pts), Power Maul]<br /> ········Rules: Champion of Chaos<br /> ····Havocs (115pts) [4x Autocannon (40pts)]<br /> ········Aspiring Champion (23pts) [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades]<br /> ········Rules: Champion of Chaos<br /> ········4x Havoc (52pts) [4x Frag Grenades, 4x Krak Grenades]<br /> <br /> Chaos Warband (700pts)<br /> Rules: Favoured Scions, Objective Secured<br /> ····Chaos Bikers (108pts) [Mark of Nurgle (18pts), 2x Meltagun (20pts)]<br /> ····Rules: Mark of Nurgle<br /> ········2x Chaos Biker (40pts) [2x Combi-bolter on Bike, 2x Frag Grenades, 2x Krak Grenades]<br /> ········Chaos Biker Champion (30pts) [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Combi-bolter on Bike, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades]<br /> ········Rules: Champion of Chaos<br /> ····Chaos Lord (145pts) [Bolt Pistol, Mark of Nurgle (15pts), The Black Mace (45pts)]<br /> ····Rules: Champion of Chaos, Cursed, Daemon Weapon, Fearless, Fleshbane, Independent Character, Mark of Nurgle<br /> ········Bike (20pts) [Combi-bolter on Bike]<br /> ········Power Armour [Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades]<br /> ····Chaos Space Marines (110pts)<br /> ········Aspiring Champion (23pts) [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon]<br /> ········Rules: Champion of Chaos<br /> ········4x Chaos Marine with Boltgun (52pts) [4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Krak Grenades]<br /> ········Chaos Rhino (35pts) [Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers]<br /> ········Rules: Repair, Transport Capacity: Rhino<br /> ····Chaos Space Marines (110pts)<br /> ········Aspiring Champion (23pts) [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon]<br /> ········Rules: Champion of Chaos<br /> ········4x Chaos Marine with Boltgun (52pts) [4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Krak Grenades]<br /> ········Chaos Rhino (35pts) [Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers]<br /> ········Rules: Repair, Transport Capacity: Rhino<br /> ····Chaos Terminators (112pts)<br /> ····Rules: Deep Strike<br /> ········Chaos Terminator (36pts) [Combi-plasma (5pts), Power Maul]<br /> ········Chaos Terminator (36pts) [Combi-plasma (5pts), Power Maul]<br /> ········Terminator Champion (40pts) [Combi-plasma (7pts), Power Maul]<br /> ········Rules: Champion of Chaos<br /> ····Havocs (115pts) [4x Autocannon (40pts)]<br /> ········Aspiring Champion (23pts) [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades]<br /> ········Rules: Champion of Chaos<br /> ········4x Havoc (52pts) [4x Frag Grenades, 4x Krak Grenades]<br /> )<br /> :24"|Strength:4|<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>:5|Type:Rapid Fire, Twin Linked<br />  Auxiliary (90pts) +<br /> <br /> Spawn (90pts)<br /> ····Chaos Spawn (30pts) [Spawn (30pts)]<br /> ····Rules: Fear, Fearless, Mutated Beyond Reason, Rage, Random Attacks, Very Bulky<br /> ····Chaos Spawn (30pts) [Spawn (30pts)]<br /> ····Rules: Fear, Fearless, Mutated Beyond Reason, Rage, Random Attacks, Very Bulky<br /> ····Chaos Spawn (30pts) [Spawn (30pts)]<br /> ····Rules: Fear, Fearless, Mutated Beyond Reason, Rage, Random Attacks, Very Bulky<br /> Profiles:<br /> Chaos Spawn: Unit Type:Beast|<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span>:3|<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span>:0|S:5|T:5|W:3|I:3|A<img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">6|<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span>:10|Save:-<br /> <br /> ++ Selection Rules ++<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Also quick note. Everything has the free veterans of the long war and this setup guarantees me four rolls on the boon each turn<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Does this seem like it will work for most book missions?  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Sep 2016 20:08:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CDShaddock]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1500] - Chaos Space Marines - Black Crusade</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You'd have to double check the wording on the formation rules but my guess is you can't stack the 2 re-rollable boons per turn with 2x warbands. Even if you could, I wouldn't take that formation twice. One warband can be workable at 1500pts and gives you lots of obsec, which is nice, but twice that is just redundant and you're spending a obscene amount of points on 'tax' units like naked <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squads that won't make their points back. <br /> <br /> I'd take only one warband and use the points to add the few heavy hitting units <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> codex actually has: heldrake, maulerfiend, & oblits<br /> <br /> Also your spawn should get <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> especially if you want them to meat-shield your bikes/warlord<br /> <br /> Re-rollable boons are fun but they ain't worth dedicating a whole list towards getting em.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:00:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ thegoodnewsnews]]></author>
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