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				<description><![CDATA[ Alright, there is a 1850pt tournament coming up so here Is my list of iron hands. Give me any tips or tricks or tweeks for the army.<br /> <br /> Fist of medusa strike force<br /> <br /> Demi company<br /> <br /> Chapter master<br />  - bike<br />  - artificer armor<br />  - power fist<br />  - lightning claw<br />  - the gorgons chains<br /> 255pts<br /> <br /> Command squad<br />  - bikes<br />  - apothecary<br />  - 4x power fist<br />  - 4x storm shields<br /> 280pts<br /> <br /> 5 man tactical squad<br />  - plasmagun<br /> 85pts<br /> <br /> 5 man tactical squad<br />  - plasmagun<br /> 85pts<br /> <br /> 5 man tactical squad<br />  - plasmagun<br /> 85pts<br /> <br /> 3x rhinos<br />  - dozer blades<br /> 120pts<br /> <br /> 5 man devastator squad<br />  - 2 lascannons<br />  - 2 rocket launchers<br /> 140pts<br /> <br /> 10 man assault squad<br />  - jump packs<br />  - sergeant with melta bombs<br />  - evisorator<br /> <br /> Dreadnought<br />  - assault cannon<br />  - power fist with heavy flamer<br /> 120pts<br /> <br /> Drop pod 35pts<br /> <br /> Command:<br /> <br /> Librarius conclave<br /> <br /> Librarian<br />  - bike<br />  - the mindforge stave<br />  - mastery level two<br /> 125pts<br /> <br /> Librarian<br /> 65pts<br /> <br /> Librarian<br /> 65pts<br /> <br /> Auxiliary:<br /> <br /> Honoured ancient ironclad dreadnought <br />  - seismic hammer with melta<br />  - power fist with heavy flamer<br />  - two hunter killer missiles<br /> 155pts<br /> <br /> Drop pod<br /> 35pts<br /> <br /> That's the list! Its pretty simple, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads grab objectives and kill other troops and the librarians give psyker support and 5+ feel no pain bubbles while the command squad crushes anything into the dirt and the assault squad zips around helping where they are needed and the dreadnoughts drop and cause mayhem in the back field. Tell me what you guys think and whether or not it would do well in a tournament]]></description>
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				<title>[1850] - Space marines - Competitive fist of medusa strike force list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Your "deathstar" command squad would benefit more from bolt pistol and power axe rather than fist for the extra attacks, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>... Having that many bleed into the enemy hero you're tanking against with your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>CM</span> could really hurt. Power mauls are also good if going against hordes. However, you then have to lose the storm shields.. I guess <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(274);'>YMMV</span>. If you are planning on buffing them to get the re-roll failed saves, I'd think that you would be just going flat out and jinking everywhere to get into <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span>, so the 4+ rerolled on them seems fine to me... the stormshields are expensive anyway. But, again, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(274);'>YMMV</span>.<br /> <br /> Along the same lines of building up this deathstar, don't you mean to have all 3 libbys on bikes to ride with the command squad? If not, I'm not sure what the point of taking the conclave is (you want them on bikes to make a deathstar).<br /> <br /> Ok, so for the rest of the list... I'd go with all drop pods if you're gonna land multiple iron clads in the enemy's face... but rhinos are fine too and can help block the field to/from your deathstar.<br /> <br /> I don't think the solo ironclad will do much for you on the drop, alone (although he can fire both missiles so that's nice), and the other dreadnought will have a hard time making an impact, as he's mixed between <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> and ranged. I'd try to upgrade him to another ironclad, or maybe balance out the list with something else?<br /> <br /> For the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span>, I'd try to get them all to lascannons... you'll need the range if you're sitting back. In this list, people will most likely NOT shoot at your deathstar, so these guys are probably gonna die... they may be a liability in this list for you... maybe bare-bones in a rhino to take an objective would be better, if they are a tax of your detachment (not sure what you need to fulfill this formation).<br /> <br /> The assault squad may be nice to deepstrike, if you give someone or something a beacon... on foot they always have a hard time surviving.. but I'd be interested to hear any success stories. Perhaps you could replace them with an attack bike (or unit of?) if they are a tax unit as well?<br /> <br /> Overall, I could see a list like this working if you spammed <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSU</span> and Ironclads on the drop... but perhaps there's more to this i'm not seeing.<br /> <br /> Finally, Deathstars are cheesy so have fun being "that guy" haha -- the fluff-loving side of me had to say it <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span> j/k <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Hope that helps.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Sep 2016 14:59:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ xTHExCLINCHERx]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1850] - Space marines - Competitive fist of medusa strike force list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I relly dont want to be a power gamer and I dont see myself as one. The other two librarians go in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads because detachment gives them +1 feel no pain when wihin 12" of a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(67);'>IC</span>. I think tcommand squad is pretty good only because it will be hard to double out a T5 biker, giving them 3+, 3++, 3+++. I might take the normal dread and make him venerable with lascannon/ missile launcher.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:16:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Thrst77]]></author>
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