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				<description><![CDATA[ Trying to decide between lists for a Rebel Grotz Themed kill team Each list has its merits and flaws ..the Sentinals I have to rebuild ..as they have been languishing for a long time Same is true for the ruff riders<br /> <br /> +++ REBEL GROTZ KILL TEAM (200pts) +++<br /> <br /> <b>LIST 1</b><br /> ++ Renegades of Vraks: IASoV - The Lost and the Damned (2015) (Allied Detachment) ++<br /> <br /> + Elites +<br /> <br /> Renegade Disciple Squad [Disciple w/ Grenade Launcher, 2x Disciple w/ Shotgun, Flak Armour]<br /> ··Autocannon Team [Lasgun]<br /> ··Disciple Champion [Bolt Pistol, Bolt Pistol, Flak Armour]<br /> <br /> + Troops +<br /> <br /> Renegade Mutant Rabble [10x Mutant w/ Stubgun]<br /> ··Mutant Champion [Stubgun]<br /> <br /> Renegade Mutant Rabble [10x Mutant w/ Stubgun]<br /> ··Mutant Champion [Stubgun]<br /> <br /> + Fast Attack +<br /> <br /> Renegade Sentinel Squadron<br /> ··Renegade Sentinel [Heavy Flamer]<br /> ··Renegade Sentinel [Heavy Flamer]<br /> ··Renegade Sentinel [Heavy Flamer]<br /> <br /> <b>LIST 2</b><br /> ++ Astra Militarum: Codex (2014) (Allied Detachment) ++<br /> <br /> + Elites +<br /> <br /> Ratlings [3x Ratling]<br /> <br /> + Troops +<br /> <br /> Veterans [Flak Armour for Squad, 3x Veteran w/ Grenade Launcher, 4x Veteran w/ Lasgun]<br /> ··Veteran Missile Launcher Team [Lasgun]<br /> ··Veteran Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol]<br /> <br /> + Fast Attack +<br /> <br /> Rough Riders [2x Rider w/ Grenade Launcher, 2x Rough Rider]<br /> ··Rough Rider Sergeant [Laspistol, Power Maul]<br /> <br /> <b>LIST 3</b><br /> <br /> ++ Orks: Codex (2014) (Allied Detachment) ++<br /> <br /> + Elites +<br /> <br /> Tankbustas [Bomb Squig, 5x Tankbusta]<br /> <br /> + Troops +<br /> <br /> Gretchin [10x Gretchin]<br /> ··Runtherd [Grabba stik]<br /> <br /> Gretchin [10x Gretchin]<br /> ··Runtherd [Grabba stik]<br /> <br /> + Fast Attack +<br /> <br /> Deffkoptas<br /> ··Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit]<br /> ··Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit]<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Sep 2016 04:40:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ As a marine (variant) player, DeffKoptas suck to fight against. They make me keep my marines in cover, and also can punch out a rhino... I'd get as many DeffKoptas as you can in your list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Sep 2016 14:58:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ List 1 and 3 will be the hardest to deal with due to numbers! <br /> <br /> with that many models it will be hard to lose half (unless there is ALOT of blast/flamers)<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Sep 2016 08:46:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Bodies and punch power are the keys then ?<br /> <br /> <br /> mabey update list two a bit (was thinking rough riders might be interesting to use again <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span> still cost to much)<br /> <br /> +++ REBEL GROTZ KILL TEAM (200pts) +++<br /> <br /> ++ Astra Militarum: Codex (2014) (Allied Detachment) ++<br /> <br /> + Elites +<br /> <br /> Ratlings [3x Ratling]<br /> <br /> + Troops +<br /> <br /> Veterans [Flak Armour for Squad, 3x Veteran w/ Grenade Launcher, 4x Veteran w/ Lasgun]<br /> ··Veteran Autocannon Team [Lasgun]<br /> ··Veteran Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol]<br /> <br /> Veterans [Flak Armour for Squad, 3x Veteran w/ Grenade Launcher, 4x Veteran w/ Lasgun]<br /> ··Veteran Autocannon Team [Lasgun]<br /> ··Veteran Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol]<br /> <br /> List three is the easiest for me to build and list one will take the longest ..( need to strip and rebuild the sentinels they are in rugged shape) <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hotshot las guns are the king in kill team due to the 3+ being the best save you can get (other than invuns) so you will be removing all armour saves, not sure how orders work but could combine that with the order to remove cover and wham no armour or cover.<br /> <br /> list 3 looks like a lot of fun and that's the one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> pick.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Sep 2016 12:52:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I actually think list 3 is the best. I don't really like the guard list so much. What happens if you're up against a list with a rhino or land speeder, etc? I really think the deffkoptas are king in KillTeam.. just a thought.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:27:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ List 3 it is ..tankbustas and Deffkoptas with plenty O gretchin ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Sep 2016 19:02:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ After seeing your lists I was hoping I could field an all-Grot Tank list. But alas, I forgot you have to have a Mek to field Grot Tanks. Maybe people would make an exception, like with the Corsair Prince rules...or I could just do it for a narrative game.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Sep 2016 19:07:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/702853/8914433.page"><b>exliontamer wrote:</b></a><br/>After seeing your lists I was hoping I could field an all-Grot Tank list. But alas, I forgot you have to have a Mek to field Grot Tanks. Maybe people would make an exception, like with the Corsair Prince rules...or I could just do it for a narrative game.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> For what it's worth, I find that Kill Team games (mostly because of their size and easy "re-racking and playing again" style) allow for more easily modified/narrative rules in gaming groups. In fact, there are even some cool "alternative suggestions" in the new rules for things like: one player brings a superheavy, or vehicles, or a Monstrous Creature, and you just get some extra specialists or a few points, or extra turns, etc. and just play out a scenario that sounds fun!<br /> <br /> So I'd say go for it!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Check with your opponets we are already looking at a bit of escaltion here locally ..ie start at 200 points and build up to about 500 under kill team rules..<br /> But if you want an all grot list .stand buy I think I have a solution for you..<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Ork_Dread_Mob_Army_List_Update.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.forgeworld.co.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span>/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Ork_Dread_Mob_Army_List_Update.pdf</a><br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 10 Scavenger Grotz + 1 Runthered (squighound and Grabba stick)<br /> <br /> <br /> +Fast Attack+<br /> <br /> Grot Tank Battle Mob (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span>)<br /> <br /> ··Grot Tank [Big Shoota]<br /> ··Grot Tank [Grotzooka]<br /> ··Grot Tank [Big Shoota]<br /> ··Grot Tank [Grotzooka]<br /> <br /> <br /> The Big Mek is only required for use as an elite in a regular ork list They can fill the fast attack slot without that requirment in the dread mob list <br /> <br /> daggone it forgot have to have at least 4 non vehicle bodies ..soooo edited the above list to have <br /> ]]></description>
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