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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey guys, what do you think of the new Strike Force Ultima box? Is it worth getting, is it a good deal, how do you feel about the models inside? As always, leave a comment, and peace.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Oct 2016 12:40:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It looks like a good deal for what you get.  Can't speak to how good it is (Terminators don't seem to be good, neither do Land Raiders) but visually it looks like a great "core" to an army, like especially if you add in some Guard or similar (think a defense force being relieved by the Marines) or a Knight, or maybe some other allied Imperial contingent.  I mean, just thinking of how that would look on the table I think it would look pretty cool.  If I didn't have a ton of other projects I'd seriously be tempted to do that.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Oct 2016 12:59:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Wayniac]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Land Raiders are expensive and not very useful (both in and out of the game) so unless you want one of those then its kind of a waste. Terminators can be a similar problem so if they aren't what you really want then its not beneficial.<br /> <br /> Great savings if you want all the models. Not worth it if your performance concerned and don't plan on using Land Raider + Terminators.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Oct 2016 13:17:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ As with all the box sets, it’s value goes down the more stuff you don’t want.<br /> <br /> From the thread over in N&R:<br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Celestialpainting wrote:</cite><br /> The new strike force Ultima is really a good deal: <br /> <br /> Terminator squad: $50 USD <br /> Stern guard: $50 USD <br /> Storm Hawk: $56 USD <br /> Tactical Squad: $40 USD <br /> Land Raider: $75 USD <br /> Razorback: $41 USD <br /> Drop pod: $41 USD <br /> Terminator Captain: $25 USD <br /> Total: $376 USD not including transfers. <br /> <br /> However, you can get this box for $250 USD</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Some of the contents are solid, core stuff that can be utilized by most lists.  Pod/Razor, sternguard, tacs.<br /> <br /> The Stormhawk has the problem of being a new kit, not found in most formations.  So unless you are running a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span>, has issues.  That said, it’s rules seem solid for what it is.<br /> <br /> I’m a little miffed about the terminator captain, squad, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>.  You have 6 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(332);'>TDA</span> bodies, and a tank that hold 5.  If they had been an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(332);'>TDA</span> assault squad in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span>/C, it would have been a much better box.  Or just owned the fact that the terminators and captain were going to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span>, and use the space in the box to get us something more useful then a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>.<br /> <br /> That side of the box is on the weak side because of it.  They included some sub-par units, and not even the best versions of them.  For a starting player in a friendly meta, this is not a huge deal.  They happen to be very iconic units.  But once people start making more competitive lists, they are going to warm the shelf.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Oct 2016 13:30:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Seems like the perfect box if you want an army that works for C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> at the time]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 3 Oct 2016 04:27:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ TheAngrySquig]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5073b62de3cdb92ddc0be1980a6fa2b6.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704219/8939646.page"><b>TheAngrySquig wrote:</b></a><br/>Seems like the perfect box if you want an army that works for C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> at the time</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You’d have to do a bit of modding/counts as to pull it off.<br /> <br /> And head to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> for rules for some of that.<br /> <br /> Drop Pod?  I’ve seen some mods to build it as a dreadclaw.  <br /> Stormhawk? Not sure what an equivalent chaos flyer is.  It’s no heldrake.<br /> Terminators? The storm/combi bolter is one thing, but the all powerfists is another.  While I think you can field them that way, nobody wants to.<br /> Razor is just spare bits on a rhino (which you can use)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 3 Oct 2016 11:34:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/ee0635b5b042371c386598202afc5e11.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704219/8940034.page"><b>Nevelon wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5073b62de3cdb92ddc0be1980a6fa2b6.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704219/8939646.page"><b>TheAngrySquig wrote:</b></a><br/>Seems like the perfect box if you want an army that works for C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> at the time</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You’d have to do a bit of modding/counts as to pull it off.<br /> <br /> And head to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> for rules for some of that.<br /> <br /> Drop Pod?  I’ve seen some mods to build it as a dreadclaw.  <br /> Stormhawk? Not sure what an equivalent chaos flyer is.  It’s no heldrake.<br /> Terminators? The storm/combi bolter is one thing, but the all powerfists is another.  While I think you can field them that way, nobody wants to.<br /> Razor is just spare bits on a rhino (which you can use)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yeah I was thinking you'd have to use a bunch of extra bits and convert.  Drop pod is probably gonna be scenery for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> to be honest, for the Stormhawk I was thinking of one of the forge world flyers, terminators can be fixed easily with bits, rhino is rhino]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 3 Oct 2016 14:17:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ TheAngrySquig]]></author>
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