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I don't actually play 40k, but I've been meaning to get into it, especially since I've been slowly putting models together over the past few years, so I wanted to know this beforehand:
If I make a "count-as" model for a character, would people generally be ok with different wargear if it's made clear before hand? I imagine it'd be fine in a casual setting, but would it work out in most tournaments?
For example, would a Pedro Kantor count-as with a sword instead of a fist work? Or Lysander with a fist instead of his hammer?


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For tournaments it really depends on their rules. Some might only allow the real miniature, others are okay with conversions, and some probably don't care as long as you announce it when setting up armies. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704953/8952199.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704953/8952199.page GMT WYSIWYG would not be okay with it not being WYSIWYG. You'd have to say "this guy's power sword counts as a fist" and if you had any other swords in your army, it'd get confusing quickly.

Honestly, it would not longer look like the character anyway.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704953/8952426.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704953/8952426.page GMT
There are no stranglewebs or spike rifles for tyranids. The bits just dont exist. Some space marine hqs can pay points for different kinds of armor but can only be purchased legally in one variant.

Whats important is that your opponent knows whats up. If you have 5 models in a unit all with bolters and then you tell them every model has a different weapon but its impossible for your opponent to tell which is which then your being a feth.

But if you have one unique model to represent one unique character then model it however you want and just make sure you tell your opponent before deployment exactly what wargear it has rules wise.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704953/8952436.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704953/8952436.page GMT don't use the character. Make up your own guy, give him a name and a brief backstory and say you are using the rules for the character for your guy. It's fun and fluffy. Try it!


(Characters are expensive anyway, $30 for a single guy when a squad of ten guys cost $40? Crazy! Everyone realizes this and making your own leader is quite common.)




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The weapons do not have to be identical, but as a player I need some way to see it is that weapon. A marine with a big massive maul in each hand would be easy to recognise as a Marneus Calgar count as (or huge claws or jackhammers or even wraithlord fists instead of regular power fists (had a friend do this, and it worked...)etc). If you put a guy down with a sword and pointing finger...he's tough to recognize as more than a sarge. I like counts as, but usually you should model the mini to be close. My counts as St. Celestine has a sword I painted flaming, and angelic wings. I painted her to have gold armor.

That matches my opinion of count's as. The key being my opinion. She isn't even based on a GW mini and not legal in a GW tourney, ...so I guess I'm flexible.
Now, I'm a big converter with a huge bits collection, and sculpts myself, so modeling wysiwyg is part of the fun for me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704953/8952484.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704953/8952484.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704953/8953360.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/704953/8953360.page GMT