<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Plasma Gun or Grav Gun? WHICH TO TAKE!!"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Plasma Gun or Grav Gun? WHICH TO TAKE!! IMO) but i'm umming and aaahing about whether to take the plasma gun and getting 24" Str 7 AP2 and Rapid Fire at 12" OR the Grav Gun which is only 18" but AP2 and Salvo 2/3. Admittedly Grav gun is not great against anything but vehicles and AP3 stuff...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8959776.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8959776.page GMT Re:Plasma Gun or Grav Gun? WHICH TO TAKE!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8959807.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8959807.page GMT Plasma Gun or Grav Gun? WHICH TO TAKE!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8959917.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8959917.page GMT Plasma Gun or Grav Gun? WHICH TO TAKE!!
Tactical squads are one of the few places where a plasma gun can still compete favorably with a grav gun. In a vacuum, that would be my suggestion. Especially if not pairing with a cannon.

I have had success with a full grav squad. While the grav gun does have a shorter range on the move, I have no problems getting my tacs into flamer range, and that’s an inch shorter. And if you stand still, you get the better range. Which is nice for when you step out of the rhino/pod right next to someone. You don’t need the range for the first shot, but there might not be good targets close after the alpha strike.

I would go full melta if you are set on the MM though. If you want to take plas/grav as a special, I’d pair that with a HB, GC, or even a LC. That might just be the relative rarity of power armor MMs in my collection tainting my opinion though. I needed to concentrate them into AV squads, and couldn’t spare them on the squads focusing on anti-infantry work. But I do think that wound spam from the HB would probably be a batter match then the one shot from the MM. But these days, I’m thinking of swapping the LC/P shelf deployment for my 3rd squad to full grav. It’s just been working that well for me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8959990.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8959990.page GMT Plasma Gun or Grav Gun? WHICH TO TAKE!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8960383.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8960383.page GMT Plasma Gun or Grav Gun? WHICH TO TAKE!!
I would keep the special weapons elsewhere.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8960428.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8960428.page GMT Plasma Gun or Grav Gun? WHICH TO TAKE!!
There's no good reason for a walking man to ever have a Graviton Gun when Plasma Guns are better and the same cost.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8960882.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8960882.page GMT Plasma Gun or Grav Gun? WHICH TO TAKE!!
I have 3 units of plasma and two units of grav. Plasma still has its uses. And your opponent will thank you... I do feel a little guilty sometimes.

Now, I still have a unit Grav Centurions (with a Hunters Eye Tech marine in a drop pod) that evens things out a bit. Obviously grav is the better choice. And if I so desired those plasmas could easily be proxyd as grav (if I see a particularly cheesy power list on the table)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8960994.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8960994.page GMT Plasma Gun or Grav Gun? WHICH TO TAKE!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8960999.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8960999.page GMT Plasma Gun or Grav Gun? WHICH TO TAKE!!
 DarknessEternal wrote:
Plasma Gun on anything that isn't Relentless, always.

There's no good reason for a walking man to ever have a Graviton Gun when Plasma Guns are better and the same cost.


There are reasons. How good they are is debatable.

Plasma wounds everything T5 or less on a 2+. But on bigger targets, it starts to lag. T6 is only a 3+, T7 4+, T8 5+ and T9-10 on a 6+. So against any MC/GMC with a decent toughness and a reasonable armor save, grav is still better. On the move, they both get 2 shots out to 9”. Plasma works a lot better here, with an extra 3” of double tap, and out to 24” for one shot. Standing still it gets a bit more complicated, but grav starts to pull way out ahead with the extra shot. But the range issue is not as bad as you’d think.

Grav also doesn’t get hot.

Vs. vehicles, plasma is also better vs. light stuff, close for mid-range, and can’t touch AV14.

Grav is still the go-to tool for monster hunting, even on foot. Plasma is more generically useful. Especially in a tac squad, where the bolters are not doing anything relevant to the big guys.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8961109.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/705281/8961109.page GMT