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				<title>[750] - Space Marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I've been out of the hobby since my Lost and the Damned army from Eye of Terror about a decade ago. Putting together a small list for friendlies and could use some insight on what is viable now. Also curious which <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span>'s would work best with units - thinking <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span> or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span>, but open to suggestions. Cheers!<br /> <br /> <b>+++ 750 (750pts) +++</b><br /> <br /> <b>++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) (525pts) ++</b><br /> <br /> <b>+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> (75pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Librarian (75pts)</b> [Mastery Level 1]<br /> ····<b>Power Armour</b> [Auspex, Bolt Pistol, Force Axe, Melta Bombs]<br /> <br /> <b>+ Troops (255pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Tactical Squad (125pts)</b> [Flamer, 4x Space Marines]<br /> ····<b>Rhino</b> [Dozer Blade]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine Sergeant</b> [Bolt Pistol, Combi-flamer]<br /> <br /> <b>Tactical Squad (130pts)</b> [Meltagun, 4x Space Marines]<br /> ····<b>Rhino</b> [Dozer Blade]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine Sergeant</b> [Bolt Pistol, Combi-melta]<br /> <br /> <b>+ Fast Attack (195pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Bike Squad (195pts)</b><br /> ····<b>Attack Bike</b> [Bolt Pistol, Multi-melta]<br /> ····<b>Biker Sergeant</b> [Combi-grav]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine Biker</b> [Bolt Pistol]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine Biker</b> [Bolt Pistol]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine Biker with Special Weapon</b> [Grav-gun, Twin-Linked Boltgun]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine Biker with Special Weapon</b> [Grav-gun, Twin-Linked Boltgun]<br /> <br /> <b>++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) (225pts) ++</b><br /> <br /> <b>+ Formation (225pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>'Stormbringer Squadron * (225pts)</b><br /> ····<b>Land Speeders</b><br /> ········<b>Land Speeder</b> [Assault Cannon, Heavy Bolter]<br /> ····<b>Land Speeders</b><br /> ········<b>Land Speeder</b> [Assault Cannon, Heavy Bolter]<br /> ····<b>Scout Squad</b><br /> ········<b>Scout Squad</b> [4x Boltgun, 4x Scouts]<br /> ············<b>Land Speeder Storm</b> [Heavy Flamer]<br /> ············<b>Scout Sergeant</b> [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 Oct 2016 05:11:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CrankyOldITGuy]]></author>
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				<title>[750] - Space Marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If I could make one suggestion:<br /> <br /> lose one of the bikes. give bike to librarian. Makes him more mobile and gives your bike squad an AP2 weapon<br /> <br /> What discipline is your Librarian bringing?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 Oct 2016 08:41:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Corennus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Welcome to Dakka, and back to the Space Marines.<br /> <br /> White Scars will do good things for your bikes, and is generally a pretty good <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span>.  I’d probably run with that.  But different <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CTs</span> have pros/cons, so go with whatever stirs your fancy.<br /> <br /> Overall your list looks pretty solid.  I’ll second Corennus’ suggestion about getting that librarian a bike.  Bikes are in a very good spot this edition.  <br /> <br /> The Lib could probably also use a second <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>.  Helps in the new system of random powers and warp charges.<br /> <br /> If you mount up the Lib, your bike squad counts as troops.  This would let you drop one of your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads if you wanted.  You could then either bump the other one up to a full 10 man squad, or keep them small and get them a razor, rather then a rhino.<br /> <br /> I like TML/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> speeders personally.  I’m not a big fan of getting in close with AV10 speeders that can be brought down by small arms.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 Oct 2016 13:22:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<title>[750] - Space Marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The list looks good. Yeah, getting the librarian on a bike is the final touch you need here. Overall, there's not really anything to change.<br /> <br /> As for chapter tactics, you can really just pick whatever you want... Ultramarines is always nice b/c of the doctines, however White Scars are probaly the best becauuse hit & run is just stupid good... but Iron Hands will give you a little extra survivability... so really just play around with it I guess.<br /> <br /> Overall, nice list!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 Oct 2016 13:33:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ xTHExCLINCHERx]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[750] - Space Marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks everyone!<br /> <br /> Here is an updated list with the Libby moved to a bike and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads combined. <br /> <br /> <b>+++ 750 - Updated (724pts) +++</b><br /> <br /> <b>++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) (499pts) ++</b><br /> <br /> <b>+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> (120pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Librarian (120pts)</b> [Mastery Level 2]<br /> ····<b>Power Armour</b> [Auspex, Bolt Pistol, Force Axe, Melta Bombs, Space Marine Bike]<br /> <br /> <b>+ Troops (379pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>Bike Squad (174pts)</b><br /> ····<b>Attack Bike</b> [Bolt Pistol, Multi-melta]<br /> ····<b>Biker Sergeant</b> [Combi-grav]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine Biker</b> [Bolt Pistol]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine Biker with Special Weapon</b> [Grav-gun, Twin-Linked Boltgun]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine Biker with Special Weapon</b> [Grav-gun, Twin-Linked Boltgun]<br /> <br /> <b>Tactical Squad (205pts)</b> [Meltagun, 9x Space Marines]<br /> ····<b>Rhino</b> [Dozer Blade]<br /> ····<b>Space Marine Sergeant</b> [Bolt Pistol, Combi-melta, Melta Bombs]<br /> <br /> <b>++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) (225pts) ++</b><br /> <br /> <b>+ Formation (225pts) +</b><br /> <br /> <b>'Stormbringer Squadron * (225pts)</b><br /> ····<b>Land Speeders</b><br /> ········<b>Land Speeder</b> [Assault Cannon, Heavy Bolter]<br /> ····<b>Land Speeders</b><br /> ········<b>Land Speeder</b> [Assault Cannon, Heavy Bolter]<br /> ····<b>Scout Squad</b><br /> ········<b>Scout Squad</b> [4x Boltgun, 4x Scouts]<br /> ············<b>Land Speeder Storm</b> [Heavy Flamer]<br /> ············<b>Scout Sergeant</b> [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]<br /> <br /> Any thoughts on what to do with the last 26pts? I can add back the extra biker, grab a heavy weapon for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad or kit out the sergeants a bit more. I could also change the land speeders to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>MLs</span>, but would need to find some bits and mod the doors - my kits are old, old old.<br /> <br /> I was initially thinking pyromancy for the Libby, but that is when he was riding around in a rhino with a flamer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad. Are any of the powers particularly stronger when he is part of a bike squad?<br /> <br /> Cheers!<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 21 Oct 2016 17:42:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CrankyOldITGuy]]></author>
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				<title>[750] - Space Marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Divination is a good go-to for librarians, lots of good stuff there.<br /> <br /> I’d like to see a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad, but that’s my old school Ultramarine talking.<br /> <br /> Cloaks for the scouts would be useful if they needed to disembark and grab and objective.  Combi on the sarge would give them a little more dakka.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/382657-Land%20Speeder%2C%20Typhoon.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">I retrofitted my old 3rd ed starter set speeders with TMLs</a>, it’s not hard to do.  The trick is to use <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CMLs</span> from terminators and mount them up top.  I used old metal bits, as that’s what I had, but modern plastics should work.  Just sink some magnets in, or attach with sticky-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span>.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 21 Oct 2016 18:44:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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