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				<description><![CDATA[ +++ Iron hands models i own (1849pts) +++<br /> <br /> ++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) (1849pts) ++<br /> <br /> + (No Category) +<br /> <br /> Chapter Tactics [Iron Hands]<br /> <br /> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> (275pts) +<br /> <br /> Captain (185pts)<br /> ····Captain<br /> ········Cataphractii Terminator Armour [Chainfist, Combi-melta, The Gorgon's Chain]<br /> <br /> Techmarine (90pts) [Bolt Pistol, Power Axe, Servo-arm, Space Marine Bike, Teleport Homer]<br /> <br /> + Elites (779pts) +<br /> <br /> Cataphractii Terminator Squad (180pts)<br /> ····Cataphractii Sergeant [Master-crafted Power Sword]<br /> ····Cataphractii Terminator [Chainfist]<br /> ····Cataphractii Terminator [Power Fist]<br /> ····Cataphractii Terminator [Power Fist]<br /> ····Cataphractii Terminator [Power Fist]<br /> <br /> Command Squad (200pts)<br /> ····Apothecary [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]<br /> ····Company Champion [Bolt Pistol, Power Sword]<br /> ····Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]<br /> ····Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]<br /> ····Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]<br /> ····Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]<br /> <br /> Sternguard Veteran Squad (224pts)<br /> ····Drop Pod [Deathwind Launcher]<br /> ····Veteran [Boltgun]<br /> ····Veteran [Boltgun]<br /> ····Veteran [Boltgun]<br /> ····Veteran [Boltgun]<br /> ····Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]<br /> ····Veteran with Special/Heavy Weapon [Boltgun, Heavy Flamer]<br /> ····Veteran with Special/Heavy Weapon [Boltgun, Heavy Flamer]<br /> <br /> Terminator Assault Squad (175pts) [4x Terminator]<br /> ····Terminator Sergeant [Two Lightning Claws]<br /> <br /> + Troops (285pts) +<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad (110pts) [4x Space Marines]<br /> ····Rhino [Dozer Blade]<br /> ····Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Boltgun]<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad (105pts) [Rhino, 4x Space Marines]<br /> ····Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad (70pts) [4x Space Marines]<br /> ····Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]<br /> <br /> + Fast Attack (70pts) +<br /> <br /> Land Speeders (70pts)<br /> ····Land Speeder [Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher]<br /> <br /> + Heavy Support (440pts) +<br /> <br /> Devastator Squad (130pts) [Missile Launcher (Frag & Krak), Missile Launcher (Frag & Krak), Missile Launcher (Frag & Krak), Missile Launcher (Frag & Krak), 4x Space Marines]<br /> ····Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]<br /> <br /> Predators (115pts)<br /> ····Predator [Autocannon, Lascannon]<br /> <br /> Vindicators (130pts)<br /> ····Vindicator [Siege Shield]<br /> <br /> Whirlwinds (65pts) [Whirlwind]<br /> <br /> [code]<br /> Created with BattleScribe (<a href="http://www.battlescribe.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.battlescribe.net</a>)<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> I posted this to ask for help identifying hard counters and weaknesses I might encounter competitively. I am dead set on the list, looking for help with tactics and refining how to play this list as i have yet to test it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 21 Oct 2016 18:31:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lordofmedusa]]></author>
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				<title>[1850] - Iron Hands ITC list - Stripped down from 2k list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Only issue with the list is that you have 4 heavy support choices and 4 elites whilst a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span> only allows 3 now ill presume that there is an allied and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span> there. Otherwise I feel that the company champion should be swapped to a veteran with a grav gun (I'd drop 1 sternguard to do this). I'm also not the biggest fan of missile launcher <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Devs</span> and feel that they would benefit from lascannons at least otherwise I just see points that would be better spent on something else. I'd personally take a stormhawk in replacement as it covers anti air as well]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 21 Oct 2016 19:09:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sqauwky]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Terminators are blech. not worth their points. If you're running <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span> you should really be using medusa strike force. You should also hace at least 2 characters, one for each relic shield. I would even suggest going full deathstar with bikes and a libcon. As it stands your army is annoying to kill but ultimately not super threatening.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 21 Oct 2016 23:38:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ERJAK]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Itc rules state you can use 3 formations unless their is a limit from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span> like you said. I havent played since end of 5th. Still new and have only skimmed the rule book a few times.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 22 Oct 2016 03:43:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lordofmedusa]]></author>
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				<title>[1850] - Iron Hands ITC list - Stripped down from 2k list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I was reviewing the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span> rules and it seems that i can take a demi company and the 1st company together and then take my ATF as an allied detachment and still be within the normal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> rules. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 22 Oct 2016 18:03:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lordofmedusa]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You could or a better alternative would be the fist of medusa strike force which counts as 1 detachment and gives your army many extra bonuses]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 22 Oct 2016 18:47:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sqauwky]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ This started as a ATF and 1st compnay as a fist of medusa list. Earlier i was told that i still gain bonuses for the formation within the detachment but i added the demi company for obsec]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 22 Oct 2016 22:04:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lordofmedusa]]></author>
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