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+++ New Roster (1850pts) +++

++ Skitarii: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++

+ Elites +

Sicarian Infiltrators [Flechette Blasters and Taser Goads, Infiltrator Princeps, 9x Sicarian Infiltrator]

+ Troops +

Skitarii Rangers [Ranger Alpha, 4x Skitarii Ranger, 2x Transuranic arquebus]

Skitarii Rangers [Ranger Alpha, 4x Skitarii Ranger, 2x Transuranic arquebus]

Skitarii Vanguard [Omnispex, 3x Plasma caliver, 9x Skitarii Vanguard]
····Vanguard Alpha [Conversion Field, Phosphor blast pistol, Taser goad]

Skitarii Vanguard [3x Arc rifle, 9x Skitarii Vanguard]
····Vanguard Alpha [Phosphor blast pistol, Refractor Field, Taser goad]

Skitarii Vanguard [3x Arc rifle, 9x Skitarii Vanguard]
····Vanguard Alpha [Phosphor blast pistol, Refractor Field, Taser goad]

+ Fast Attack +

Sydonian Dragoons
····Sydonian Dragoon [Phosphor serpenta, Taser lance]
····Sydonian Dragoon [Phosphor serpenta, Taser lance]

+ Heavy Support +

Onager Dunecrawlers
····Onager Dunecrawler [Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber]
····Onager Dunecrawler [Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber]
····Onager Dunecrawler [Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber]

Onager Dunecrawlers
····Onager Dunecrawler [Icarus Array - Twin autocannon, Gatling rockets, Daedalus]
····Onager Dunecrawler [Icarus Array - Twin autocannon, Gatling rockets, Daedalus]

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However, sticking to this list I would definitely add more Dragoons. For me, they are excellent for their points. I haven't had much luck with Arquebuses (Arquebi?), so I'd take out one of the Ranger squads for some more Dragoons. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/706212/8978539.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/706212/8978539.page GMT Re:[1850] - Skitarii - first crack at it tfg, face smash, no fun.

How do you run your dragoons? What kit do you use?
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Also consider splitting the infiltrators into two units. That's a lot of fragile eggs in one basket.

The rest is a fine thematic Skitarii army you'll have fun with.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/706212/8984302.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/706212/8984302.page GMT Re:[1850] - Skitarii - first crack at it http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/706212/8984964.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/706212/8984964.page GMT [1850] - Skitarii - first crack at it
Infiltrators are generally better than ruststalkers, the only exception being if you play in a meta with way more 2+'s than is normal.In my last 10 skitarii games I've used ruststalkers once, infiltrators 8 or 9 times.

It's debatable if you should run them as one big unit or 2 man ones, you'll find against most targets 10 infiltrators will kill most things in a single round of combat, that can leave them vunerable to being shot and and possibly waste attacks.

Personally i'd drop one ranger unit down to basic so lose the arquebas's, they're questionable for the points cost and a base unit is still surprisingly effective.

I'd steer away from conversion fields, the +1 invun you get over a refractor isn't worth the extra points never mind the risk of having your plasma guns blinded so easily being only I3.

Personally i also don't ever give alphas combat upgrades outside a war convo, at I3 most combat troops will strike before him and in a challenge they won't stand up well, it's just not worth the points when you're loosing shooting attacks from the squad. I occasionally give arc squad alphas an ark pistol if i don't have anywhere else to put the points but that's about it.

Two icarus onagers is a bit overkill, unless your facing lists with loads of flyers one should be enough, it's currently too many points thrown into AA.

Personally i'd take one and add it to another from the 3 duncrawler squad so you have 2 with laser and extra subber, 2 with eradication beamer and stubber and one with icarrus array and stubber. There's a lot of redundancy and options there.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/706212/8985007.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/706212/8985007.page GMT [1850] - Skitarii - first crack at it http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/706212/8985470.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/706212/8985470.page GMT [1850] - Skitarii - first crack at it
 MisterPerkins wrote:
Only thing I can really add is to split your 10 man arc rifle vanguards into 5 man squads with 2 specials each. They are more efficient that way


Agreed, I am finding these days with my skitarii that MSU really helps. They arent super defensive so having your enemy split their fire can be really efficient. Massed units of Vanguard with arc rifles can pretty much kill anything in the game.

For the Onagers I would suggest 1 Icarus and 2 units of 2 Neutron (or eradication beam, depending on how much power armor you play against)

As for dragoons I have had some OK times with 2 of them but they really shine in units of 3 or more (getting 20+ hits on the charge can be really nasty) and I've only ever run them stock. If you cut down on your alpha upgrades you can easily afford a third dragoon.

As for the infiltrators you want them to prey on weak ranged units like devastators or company command squads, so I will second 2 squads, plus the emeny has to choose which one to shoot while your dragoons close in
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Also I've read that Vanguard are good at closing in and adding to close combat due to special rules. that's why I gave them tasers. I see almost everybody calling to yank those off. Are you avoiding close combat? Or throwing in with small squads.

as for the dune crawlers many suggestions have been squads of 2 which again makes sense, but missing out on that 4+ scares me in the survivability department at least for the first few turns. Also is there ever a reason to take the eradication Beamer? The neutron seem so much better.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/706212/8986911.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/706212/8986911.page GMT Re:[1850] - Skitarii - first crack at it
 dionysus wrote:
Thanks for all the replies. I'm seeing multiple people mention min/max units. My biggest concern with that is the lack of ablative wounds the special weapons have when you go that route. Yes they need to split target, but it's much easier for them to decimate a five-man squad and remove those specials. It sounds like you folks are speaking from Experience, so what have you done to mitigate that.

Also I've read that Vanguard are good at closing in and adding to close combat due to special rules. that's why I gave them tasers. I see almost everybody calling to yank those off. Are you avoiding close combat? Or throwing in with small squads.

as for the dune crawlers many suggestions have been squads of 2 which again makes sense, but missing out on that 4+ scares me in the survivability department at least for the first few turns. Also is there ever a reason to take the eradication Beamer? The neutron seem so much better.



I try to avoid CC at all possible unless im assaulting a foe who is inherently weaker or I am in danger of being shot off the table. I find that Skitarii shooting is simply amazing and you need to maximize that advantage.

As for the eradication beamer it really depends on your opponent and if you need to save points. I find myself fighting more elite troop and less vehicles these days so arc blasters and a squad of neutrons usually have me covered. That large blast can come in handy at times but it is just something to consider. More times than I can count that single small blast has been negated by cover or invulns.
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