Tibs Ironblood wrote:
Am I missing something or is it just Codex space marines with good, but expensive foot slogging tacticals, dreadnoughts and a unique IC? the 1d4chan thread talks about how it has a ton of firepower, but honestly I am not seeing it. You have to claim a silly objective marker or tie at best in addition to not have access to space marine formations so not battle demi company with siege mantle tacticals.

I honestly do not really see the reason to play it other then 3+ re-rollable tacticals.

 Glitcha wrote:
I've played it acouple of times. Its a very a elite list heavy and takes some skill to play. When I built my list for it, I took 2 siege masters (1 for tank hunter and 1 for monster hunter, or double down on either 1.) The siege mantle upgrade can be awesome. The marines become bulky, but you get to re-roll 3+ and its free to any IC that joins the squad. (re-roll 2+ anyone) Being able to take dreadnoughts and centurions as troops is awesome, but you have to remember you can not have more of them then you have tactical marines.

Securing that siege marker can be a challenge if you just use the siege list. That is why I suggest taking a formation or two from the Angles of death book or codex space marine to supplement the army and make it so you can get that objective easier.

 Tiger9gamer wrote:

 Tibs Ironblood wrote:
Am I missing something or is it just Codex space marines with good, but expensive foot slogging tacticals, dreadnoughts and a unique IC? the 1d4chan thread talks about how it has a ton of firepower, but honestly I am not seeing it. You have to claim a silly objective marker or tie at best in addition to not have access to space marine formations so not battle demi company with siege mantle tacticals.

I honestly do not really see the reason to play it other then 3+ re-rollable tacticals.

I'm thinking that too, but! that unique HQ is actually one of the best generic HQ's you can get for both 30k and 40k space marines. He allows re-rolls to reserve rolls wether he is on the board or not, has a signum so he can boost someone's BS up by one, and can give one unit in his army a USR. that's pretty amazing in my oppinion, but I still don't know if I it is worth running because of him. also, Dreadnought troop choices!

Did make up a quick list based on it though (again reference here for rules)



Basically, It's a lot more FOC shenanigans and a few really powerful units, but again, I wanna compare and contrast the differences in playing this and playing modern 40k space marines.