<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "[1850] - Eldar - Non-competitive "]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net [1850] - Eldar - Non-competitive OP). Here is the list:

HQ
Farseer
- 100 points

Elites
9 Striking Scorpions with Exarch with scorpion's claw
- 193 points

Troops
10 Dire Avengers with Exarch with diresword and shuriken pistol
- 160 points

10 Guardians
- 90 points

10 Guardians
- 90 points

3 Windriders with shuriken cannons
- 81 points

3 Windriders with shuriken cannons
- 81 points

3 Windriders with shuriken cannons
- 81 points

Dedicated Transport
2 Wave Serpents with twin-linked bright lances and holofields
- 260 points

Fast Attack
Crimson Hunter Exarch
- 160 points

Heavy Support
Fireprism with holofields and spirit stones
- 150 points

Falcon with bright lance, holofields, and spirit stones
- 155 points

2 Wraithlords with ghostglaives
- 250 points

Total: 1851 points


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Where is the farseer going? Who’s riding in the serpents?

I’d keep the scorpions on foot, doing the infiltrate thing. Which leaves 3 units and two and a half transports. I might cut the DAs in half and stick them in the Falcon. Use those points to get some of the extras for the guardians, and put them in the WSs. Alternatively, drop one of the guardian squads to kit out the other, and run them in one serpent, the full DA squad in the other, and keep the falcon empty as a pure gunboat.

If you want to be more friendly, you could go back to the old 1-in-3 heavy weapons on the bikes. But they are fine.

If going for pure CC WLs, you might want to take the flamers.

You have air cover. You have AV. Anti-horde. Good mix of firepower. So you should function well as a TAC list. The only thing that might trigger some cheese cries are the bikes. But you went for the cannons, not the scatters, so that takes some of the sting out. Overall looks like a decent, fun list.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/711246/9081705.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/711246/9081705.page GMT [1850] - Eldar - Non-competitive
I personally run units of 3 with 1 Scatterlaser & 2 Shuricannons with great success (both tactically and at keeping friends).
I move them in a "V" formation with the Scatter laser in the rear. It allows the unit to still be effective at 36" range, and is just as deadly (but potentially more so) at 24" as a unit of 3 Scatterbikes.

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Adime wrote:
Are scatter lasers better than shuriken cannons? Also, do you think I should get rid of a striking scorpion and upgrade farseer to a skyrunner?


There are a few cases where the cannons are better, but the widely held consensus is that the scatter laser is better generically.

Putting the farseer on a bike is mechanically almost a no-brainer. The extra toughness, mobility, etc. make it well worth it. The loss of one guy in a large squad is a minor price to pay. If you have the model, go for it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/711246/9081850.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/711246/9081850.page GMT [1850] - Eldar - Non-competitive
Adime wrote:
Are scatter lasers better than shuriken cannons? Also, do you think I should get rid of a striking scorpion and upgrade farseer to a skyrunner?

The answer to both questions is an absolute YES.

This is just my personally preference, but I do not even consider Farseers on foot to be an option.

The general consensus on Scatter vs Shuricannon is that the guaranteed extra shot and 12" or range far outweigh the potential to roll a '6' for Bladestorm.
Some could argue (as I do) that a Shuricannon averages that same number of wounds to MEQs TEQs & MCs as a Scatter laser, and has more potential to damage these types of enemies.
However, Eldar have no shortage of ways to deal with these units, such as Bladstorm on other units, Monofilament weapons, and all the D.

The Scatter laser is so "good" on bikes because it does something en mass that other platforms in the codex can do (War Walkers being the exception): Massed anti-infantry/light armour shots.
The extra 12" of range is also very important as it allows your fragile bikes to stay as far away as possible and allows for more possible JSJ behind LoS blocking terrain

So if you are trying to make an effective list that isn't super competitive, I'd go with Shuricannons since Scatter lasers are widely considered "the most competitive option".

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Adime wrote:
This is going to be an unbound list by the way.

But it really don't have to be. You could drop 4 Dire Avengers (so they fit in the Falcon) and with the points you can but a vanilla Warlock as a second HQ and field 2 CADs
It sucks having a Warlock that basically just hides all game, but it is worth it to have a Battle-Forged list]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/711246/9082226.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/711246/9082226.page GMT [1850] - Eldar - Non-competitive
Adime wrote:
Are scatter lasers better than shuriken cannons? Also, do you think I should get rid of a striking scorpion and upgrade farseer to a skyrunner?

Game-wise, they are.
They give you increased range and in this way better maneuverability.
The more dice to roll the better.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/711246/9084533.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/711246/9084533.page GMT