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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello all, <br /> I'm new Warhammer and fell in love with Orks, everything about them called to me so I had to create and army. Here is a list I made up let me know what you think.<br /> <br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b><br /> <br /> Warboss<br /> +Blitzbike +Power klaw<br /> <br /> Warboss<br /> +Mega Armor +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span><br /> <br /> <b>Elite</b><br /> <br /> Meganobz x5<br /> +Skortcha x2 +Trukk with Boarding plank<br /> <br /> <b>Troop</b><br /> <br /> Slugga Boyz x12<br /> +Nob +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> +Trukk with Boarding plank<br /> <br /> Slugga Boyz x12<br /> +Nob +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> +Trukk with Boarding plank<br /> <br /> Slugga Boyz x12<br /> +Nob +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> +Trukk with Boarding plank<br /> <br /> <b>Fast Attack</b><br /> <br /> Deffkoptas x3<br /> +Rokkits<br /> <br /> Warbikerz x7<br /> <br /> <b>Heavy Support</b><br /> <br /> Mek Gunz x2<br /> +Kannon<br /> <br /> Mek Gunz x2<br /> +Kannon<br /> <br /> <b>TOTAL POINTS: 1239</b><br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I suggets instead of blitz bike and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> ..GO regular bike and Headwompas..Then use the extra points to give the Megaboss a Luckystick ..oh yes and find a way to shove the meganobz in a wagon as the trukks tend to go pop fast..]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I guess the first question is what kind of list do you want? Competitive? Are you basing it off of one of the klans in the book? Do you like the look of those models? What got you in to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>? We can help you design a list you want but I don't want you to spend real money on a list you don't wanna play.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like it. Fluffy. Of course since orks... not competitive in any meta, but a solid list. Fliers will give you hell.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not a bad list at all. The only glaring problem I see is that you dont have a way of destroying transports from range which is key to getting your melee units stuck in efficiently.  Those Kannons, while versatile, aren't great at anything in particular so I would recommend you swap them out for some Lootas - if you like the look of Mek Gunz and want to keep some then Kustom Mega Kannons would be better than Kannons and are also quite versatile.<br /> <br /> You've got the makings of two lists here, if you keep your core as everything but the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> you could run two lists - one led by a Warboss on the Blitzbike (give this guy a bosspole as well) with a retinue of Warbikers (a Painboy on Warbike as well really makes this unit great) and another led by a Mega Armoured (+ Da Lucky Stikk) Warboss. You could remove the Warbikers in that latter list and replace with a Battlewagon for your Warboss and Slugga Boyz and in the former list you can reduce the amount of Meganobz and add more Warbikers and that Painboy.<br /> <br /> Good luck and have fun]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Dec 2016 18:00:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the response guys. <br /> <br /> To answer some of the questions...<br /> I feel Orks need more speed to KRUMP guys, so thats why I chose bikes and Trukks. <br /> <br /> I do want to keep this more of a close combat kinda design. <br /> <br /> I really like Koptas and Meganobz, both seem very good and a must take.<br /> <br /> I'm all for upping the list to 1500 if you feel that would be better to incorporate a more competitive list. I felt Mek Gunz are better due to toughness and Wounds and the ridiculously cheap point cost. I'm all for changing and making this better.<br /> <br /> Feel free to change things, I do own a box of bikes, 3 boxes of boyz, and two boxes of Mega Nobz already.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Dec 2016 19:34:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ LannyLingers]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I agree that speed is key with Orks these days and you're right about Deffkoptas and Meganobz being great, they're a couple of our best units. You've definitely built your list on the right ideas. Mek Gunz are really good with high Toughness and low points cost but there's a couple of areas where they really excel: Lobbas make excellent anti-infantry, Traktor Kannons make excellent anti-air (though they aren't used much because Lootas fill that role while maintaining flexibility against other targets) and Kustom Mega Kannons are great anti-elite infantry and can also be used against vehicles. Kannons offer fairly lacklustre anti-infantry (Warbikes, Boyz, Lobbas etc all do it better) and average anti-vehicle (Lootas and Tankbustas do it much better); so while they're cheap they're also immobile and not best-in-class at either of their roles. However, they aren't unusable but I brought it up before because they're your only ranged anti-vehicle. Four strength 8 AP3 shots will take a lot of time to destroy a Rhino even if they can shoot at it at full strength each turn, by which time that vehicle and any others your opponent has will be right where they want them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Dec 2016 20:25:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:[1250] - New Player ORKS!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Here is a pic of what they look like so far. Still a work in progress.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Dec 2016 20:26:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ LannyLingers]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Looking good!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok so I changed it up... I like the Meganobz a lot and battlewagon. I also changed the bases a little, let me know what you guys think of the list and paint job. Thanks!<br /> <br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> </b><br /> <br /> Warboss <br /> +Mega Armor +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> +Da Lucky Stikk<br /> <br /> <b>Elite </b><br /> <br /> Meganobz x6<br /> +Skortcha x2 <br /> +Battlewagon +Rokkits x2 +Boarding Plank +Grot Riggers<br /> <br /> <b>Troop </b><br /> <br /> Slugga Boyz x12 <br /> +Nob +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> +Trukk with Boarding plank <br /> <br /> Slugga Boyz x12 <br /> +Nob +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> +Trukk with Boarding plank <br /> <br /> Slugga Boyz x12 <br /> +Nob +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> +Trukk with Boarding plank <br /> <br /> <b>Fast Attack </b><br /> <br /> Deffkoptas x3 <br /> +Rokkits <br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Heavy Support </b><br /> <br /> Lootas x5<br /> <br /> Lootas x5<br /> <br /> <b>Total: 1226</b>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Dec 2016 06:54:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ LannyLingers]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think your list is solid. the only thing i'd change about this list is the defkopta's and here's why.<br /> Deffkopta's are great! their twin-linked waponry deliveres every game and their speed is game changing when playing with tactical objectives. but your enemies know this and will shoot at them if there are three deffkopta's in a unit.<br /> When they kill one deffkopta, you are taking a risk to fail morall and they fly of the board.<br /> <br /> This issue can be solved by a slight adjustment which will make your army a lot more versatile.<br /> <br /> break the deffkopta's up into 3 units of 1 kopta. When you lose one, the others don't run away. Also, most people find something better to shoot at than a single deffkopta. And last but not least, they can claim 3 objectives instead of one]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Aarsigheid]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would put 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(710);'>MANZ</span> squads in 2 trucks instead of 6 in a Wagon. Wagon is to easy to hit from side (12AV) and tends to get stunned/immobilized/explode easy.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Dec 2016 10:31:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ nah, by the time your enemy can shoot the side of your battlewagon, you are close enough to charge him during your turn (that or you screwed up your deployment) 2 trucks explode easier than a battlewagon. and since only 2 trucks hold the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(710);'>MANz</span>, they are the biggest threat to most armies and most players will explode both trucks turn one. Then avoid the foodslogging <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(710);'>MANz</span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Your paint job is well done as far as I can see. Both lists are good.  Save the unused bits from your boyz.and Lootas.(to build tankbustas and Mekboyz) <br /> Going to 1500 I would add some bustas and Lootas or mek gunz..<br /> On up to 1750 a Biker unit is not out of the question..<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Do you think putting one boy with Rokkit Launcha in with each squad would be a good idea? Little added power, or just keep them all Slugga's?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ LannyLingers]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/711439/9086573.page"><b>LannyLingers wrote:</b></a><br/>Do you think putting one boy with Rokkit Launcha in with each squad would be a good idea? Little added power, or just keep them all Slugga's?</div></blockquote><br /> Leave the boys sluggas and use the free rokkit upgrade on the trukks <br /> You have rokkit bits in each box of boys and in each Lootas Box..so your good for the upgrades you have listed..<br /> Save the Kannon and ZZappa Bits from your BW to make Big gunz from later]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks everyone for the comments, it has really helped me out and I LOVE the list. ]]></description>
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