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Chaos Lord - 100pt
Power armor, Power Fist, Combi melta
Terminators - 155pt
3 Lightning claws, 2 Combi Bolter, 1 Combi melta
The champ has Chainfist and Combi Bolter
10 Man CSM Squad - 238pt
Rhino, 2 melta, all take ccw, champ has powerfist
10 Man CSM Squad - 238pt
Rhino, 2 melta, all take ccw, champ has powerfist
Raptors (x4 + AC) - 113pt
Flamer, melta, champ has Combi Bolter
Havocs - 155pts
4 lascannons



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Terminators are generally pretty bad, don't splurge out on lightning claws when they already come with power weapons (and by power weapons, they should probably be power axes or a mix of axes and mauls) and you should be taking a combi melta or plasma on every model you can. Don't mix combi weapons either, all melta or all plasma.

The CSM squads are fine, but the extra CC weapons and the powerfists are a point sink at 1000 points. Decent enough for a casual game though, and a rude surprise for people who expect toothless tacticals.

Raptors should take 2 of the same special weapon, which should almost always be a melta gun. There's really no reaon to give the raptor champ a combi bolter since they can't charge if he fires it and everyone else has 12" range pistols/meltas so they should be running, not standing still to fire a single bolter shot.

Havoks with las are fine, if a touch expensive. Autocannons are the usual choice for keeping them cheap but effective, but lascannons do pack more punch against hard targets.

With the given choices, I assume that you're aiming for a Warband/Iron Warriors Great Company? If so, you should definately find the points to take a single spawn and get the whole detatchment benefits.

List Suggestion:

Iron Warriors Grand Company
Chaos Warband
175 - Lord, Jump Pack, Fleshmetal Exoskeleton, Power Fist, Lightning Claw, Sigil of Corruption
195 - 10x Marines, Rhino, 2x Melta Guns
195 - 10x Marines, Rhino, 2x Melta Guns
112 - 3x Terminators, 3x Power Axes, 3x Combi weapons [Melta or Plasma, your choice]
115 - 5x Raptors, 2x Melta Guns
115 - 5x Havoks, 4x Autocannons

Auxilary
30 - 1x Chaos Spawn

937/1000

You've got 63 points to play with, so you can put power weapons on your marines and a fist on the raptor champ or you can take another 2 spawn to bulk up that squad, you could change the lord to a bike (I advise that you do since +1 toughness is definately worth 5 points), you can upgrade the havoks from autocannons to lascannons (try not to mix weapons here either, keep them all the same so you're not wasting shots shooting at things that don't make sense) or you could add more raptors as ablative wounds for your lord. Lots of choices for those remaining points, but if you do nothing else, please, please find room for an aux choice, that 30 point spawn adds so, so much to the warband.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/711925/9094404.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/711925/9094404.page GMT