<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "[1210] - Space Marine - Newish Player"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net [1210] - Space Marine - Newish Player Thanks in advance.

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Captain- Relic Blade and Storm Bolter

ELITES
Contemptor Dreadnought- Cyclone Missile launcher, Assault Cannon and Powerfist with Storm bolter

TROOPS
(Rhino) Tactical Squad- Sgt power Sword and Plasma Pistol
Flamer and Missile Launcher

(Drop Pod) Tactical Squad- Sgt Lighting claw and Plasma Pistol
Plasma Gun

FAST ATTACK
Assault Squad- Jump packs
Sgt lighting claw and Plasma Pistol
Eviscerator and Flamer

Stormtalon Gunship- Twin linked Assault Cannon and Typhoon Missile Launcher

HEAVY SUPPORT
Predator- Autocannon Turret and lascannon sponsons]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9096199.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9096199.page GMT [1210] - Space Marine - Newish Player
Also what is your assault squad doing? attacking armor? fighting hordes? harassing elites units? You have them equipped to do all three poorly. pick a single role for them to excel at and then let them do one job.

switch your squads transports. flamers need to be up close put the flamer in the droppod and combat squad the missile launcher to your deployment area while your plasma gets to fire with mobility and protection.

plasma pistols are never, ever, ever, worth their points. the only time I would even possibly imagine paying for them would be some close assault salamanders list where I get to master-craft them for free, or maybe a black templars list where I'm hoping they will explode in my face to give the rest of the squad rage for a turn. plasma pistols cost 15 points. a marine costs 14 points. you will probably not kill more than one thing with that pistol in a whole game making it cost more points than it earns back.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9096297.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9096297.page GMT [1210] - Space Marine - Newish Player
What Chapter Tactics are you using? Each Chapter plays a bit differently, so it would be easier to tailor your list in regards to what abilities they have.

If you're going to gear up your sergeants, give them Combi-weapons. Ideally tactical squads should not be in close combat, so don't go trying to pick fights with squads that do. Combi-Weapons allow you to get a little extra punch with the tacticals, like getting two flamers to barbecue an Ork mob instead of one.

I don't really use Assault Marines all that much, mainly because my experience with them is that they plop in and then get shot off the board next turn. If you have some points/money, invest in some bikers with Grav Guns. They're more durable and can be a threat to almost everything, be it light infantry with their bolters or heavy infantry/tanks/Monstrous Creatures with the Grav weapons.

I like the Predator with the autocannon and Lascannons, I think it does well at dealing with light armor and walkers, and can even knock out some heavy vehicles from time to time, But if you have the points, go for the tri-las Predator; I've one-shot Battlewagons with all those lascannons, and your list does seem to be lacking in long range anti tank weapons (but that's the Imperial Fist player in me talking)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9096724.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9096724.page GMT [1210] - Space Marine - Newish Player
My next buys I'm thinking are either a centurion squad with grav for heavy fire power or a bike squad with grav to replace the assault squad.
For chapter tactics I've been playing with imperial fists and doing my chapter as a successor.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9097406.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9097406.page GMT [1210] - Space Marine - Newish Player
I would also look into a retinue for the captain, like a command squad or some Sternguard Vets (the latter of which are fantastic for Imperial Fist lists since Bolter Drill works with their Special ammunition). Having some meat shields will ensure he sticks around for some time.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9097448.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9097448.page GMT [1210] - Space Marine - Newish Player GW store, once again thanks for the help and i'll let you know how it goes ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9099746.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9099746.page GMT [1210] - Space Marine - Newish Player
Randomswaine wrote:
Hey was just wondering if people would be willing to give feedback and opinions on my list, i've only played a few games and i think it does well but just looking for feedback.
Thanks in advance.

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Captain- Relic Blade and Storm Bolter

ELITES
Contemptor Dreadnought- Cyclone Missile launcher, Assault Cannon and Powerfist with Storm bolter

TROOPS
(Rhino) Tactical Squad- Sgt power Sword and Plasma Pistol
Flamer and Missile Launcher

(Drop Pod) Tactical Squad- Sgt Lighting claw and Plasma Pistol
Plasma Gun

FAST ATTACK
Assault Squad- Jump packs
Sgt lighting claw and Plasma Pistol
Eviscerator and Flamer

Stormtalon Gunship- Twin linked Assault Cannon and Typhoon Missile Launcher

HEAVY SUPPORT
Predator- Autocannon Turret and lascannon sponsons


The captain is a decent all-around load. In general, stormbolters are not worth the points. Might be better served with a combi. I normally forgo any real shooting options, keeping them geared for CC. Atrificer armor is a must, as well as some sort of CC toy. The rest is optional.

Dread is expensive, but should work.

ML/F is the classic loadout for a tac squad. Very flexible, but suffers from being a generalist load in a game that rewards specialization. I still field a squad like that frequently due to pure nostalgia. Sarges should be light on gear in tac squads IMHO. Bare-bones, or with a special to match the squad. Not a lot more then that.

I like both the special and heavy in a 10 man tac squad. HBs or GCs pair well with plasma guns.

Plasma pistols are comically overpriced. Avoid them when you can. My assault marine squad of choice is 2xFlamers, and a vet sarge with a power weapon. I don’t like spending the points for the evicerator, but it has some potential.

I like the skyhammers on my talon, but the TML has some advantages. I’m just stingy on upgrades.

Auto/Las is my pred of choice, although the TLLC is reasonably priced these days.

Edit:

Grav bikers are a really solid choice. Easier to work into a list then grav cents (which are also good).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9099756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712034/9099756.page GMT