<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "[1850] - WhiteScars/Guard/Inquiz - Artillery theme, (competitive?) advise please"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net [1850] - WhiteScars/Guard/Inquiz - Artillery theme, (competitive?) advise please So the idea behind this list is to have a cover-hugging gun line made largely of artillery, much of it forgeworld. This is largely inspired by WWI, with a few modifications to make it more viable.


Standard list (ordered by detachment):
Spoiler:

White scars CAD:
Techmarine, bike
Techmarine, hunter's eye (relic that grants unit ignore cover)
Bike squad, 1 grav gun
Bike squad, 1 grav gun
Quad mortar support battery (1 artillery piece, 2 marine crew, can fire either 4 blasts 48" S5AP5 barrage pinning, or 4 shots 36" S8AP4 tank hunter)
Quad mortar support battery
446 points

Inquisitorial detachment (old codex)
Ordo xenos inquisitor, rad & psychotroke grenades, 3 servo skulls
2 acolytes and a psyker, razorback
2 acolytes, one with a flamer, and a psyker, rhino
2 acolytes, one with a flamer, and a psyker, rhino
238 points

Company command squad, camo, master of ordnance
Ministorum priest
Ministorum priest
infantry platoon:
Platoon command squad, autocannon
Infantry squad, lascannon
Infantry squad, lascannon
Sabre weapons battery: 2 platforms, 2 spare crew, lascannons (2 artillery pieces, each has a twin linked skyfire interceptor lascannon, 4 crew)
Conscripts: 50 men
ANOTHER TROOP CHOICE TBD
Wyvern battery, 2 wyverns
Heavy artillery carriage battery, 1 medusa (4-wound immobile artillery platform, 4 crew, 36" S10AP2)
Manticore platform (AV 10/10/10 2HP immobile, min range 36", 7" blast S9AP2, limited ammunition (4 shots))
902 points

Total: 1586


List reordered by battlefield role:
Spoiler:


Part 1: big guns, sitting back behind boosted cover (3+ cover saves, 2+ if night fighting or if I'm lucky with warlord traits), using orders or the attached techmarine to ignore cover.

Company command squad, camo, master of ordnance
Platoon command squad, autocannon
Infantry squad, lascannon
Infantry squad, lascannon (these two combine into a 20-man blob with 2 lascannons)
Sabre weapons battery: 2 platforms, 2 spare crew, lascannons (2 artillery pieces, each has a twin linked skyfire interceptor lascannon, 4 crew)
Quad mortar support battery (1 artillery piece, 2 marine crew, can fire either 4 blasts 48" S5AP5 barrage pinning, or 4 shots 36" S8AP4 tank hunter)
Quad mortar support battery
Wyvern battery, 2 wyverns
Heavy artillery carriage battery, 1 medusa (4-wound immobile artillery platform, 4 crew, 36" S10AP2 large blast)
Manticore platform (AV 10/10/10 2HP immobile, min range 36", 7" blast S9AP2, limited ammunition (4 shots))
2 acolytes and a psyker, razorback (divination to twin-link something)
Techmarine, hunter's eye (relic that grants unit ignore cover)
ANOTHER ASTRA MILITARUM TROOP CHOICE TBD


Part 2: either rush out to do some damage turn 1 with psychic shriek and grav, or sit back twin-linking or in reserve waiting to rush out and grab objectives in the end. (272 ponts)

2 acolytes, one with a flamer, and a psyker, rhino
2 acolytes, one with a flamer, and a psyker, rhino
Bike squad, 1 grav gun
Bike squad, 1 grav gun

Part 3: the assault unit/deathstar. (349 points)

Techmarine, bike
Ordo xenos inquisitor, rad & psychotroke grenades, 3 servo skulls
Ministorum priest
Ministorum priest
Conscripts: 50 men
Scarier than it looks, with the ability to get 2+ rerollable saves, reduce enemy toughness, and make the enemy hit themselves, and this can only be taken down through massive firepower directed at 3-point models! Hit and run lets it use the grenades over and over, and if the fight happens near midfield, I can use it to slingshot this unit into my opponent's backfield. It can soak a ton of wounds, and if facing an assault list, the ICs can split off and boost some leadership scores for better orders, and repair vehicles, too, until the foe closes in.



This leaves me 264 points, with a 2nd Astra Militarum troop choice required.

Option A:
I can get another platoon, platoon command squad and 2 infantry squads, all with autocannons (160), and tack on 34 more conscripts. The conscripts can either help bubble-wrap, and clog enemy movement options. And if I split my ICs between the squads and keep them close to both, I can present a scary-huge wall of human flesh.

Option B:
I can get another platoon but leave off the conscripts, and have 104 points to play with.

Option C: I can get a veteran squad with a lascannon (80 points), and have 184 points to play with.

So which option do I take? If I take option B or C, then what do I add? I was thinking of a predator with 2 lascannons and an autocannon turret (115). Or more bike squads. Or a couple land speeder storms. I own everything already mentioned but have money to spend if you have better ideas.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712227/9099494.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712227/9099494.page GMT [1850] - WhiteScars/Guard/Inquiz - Artillery theme, (competitive?) advise please
You'll have to play around with some other points, but I'd rather have the grav than, for instance, one wimpy BS3 lascannon in a squad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712227/9101956.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712227/9101956.page GMT [1850] - WhiteScars/Guard/Inquiz - Artillery theme, (competitive?) advise please
For tournaments, I can't generally have a 4th detachment. I'm not dropping the inquisition; they provide a lot (psychic support/shriek, objective grabbing) very cheaply. I get your gist though, you suggest a high volume of fire alpha strike unit. Make another suggestion! But be careful - I think that between genestealer cult and magnus, the meta is about to shift dramatically.

I could drop a rhino and the flamers and voila, about 230 points to play with. Make more suggestions and if possible stick to a WWI theme.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712227/9102544.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/712227/9102544.page GMT