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I'm new to this forum (and apologize for my bad english) and new to the world of miniatures painting. Yes I'm a beginner painter!
I started an Orruk army and already have a color scheme but I'm definitely not satisfied with this one.

Here is a look for my first Orruk Brute:


I realize that I don't like the plastic-toy look of these colors and, more generally, don't like the colorful scheme used by most of the orruk players (except some very beautifuly painted megaboss, but I definitely not have this painting skill x))
What I mean is that my color scheme lack of "primitivity", "brutality" or more generally "realism/credibility".
I would like to change that, and I think the most important point is to totally change the armor colors choice.

I like the one painted by ThirEyedNuke, the primal look and credibility in the colors used. But again: I do not have these high skills in painting =)
So if I go for a fully dark-silver armor, it will lack of variety in the end. So I would like to keep a 2-colors scheme for my miniature :

First color: Leadbelcher, multiple wash of Nuln Oil and Agrax Earthshade, highlight with Leadbelcher/Ironbreaker, dry Necron Compound, and eventually some scratches of rust (Typhus Corrosion with Ryza Rust

Second color: And finally here is my question, I don't know what to associate with the first color. Maybe a metallic dark-red, like the one in this tutorial (but less pinky)?

Do you guys have some advice about the second color, or more generally a primitive/brutal color scheme for an Orruk?

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Not a very successful post but it doesn't matter: I finally ended up with a new color scheme
Finally the second armor color is a bronze color highlighted with a mix of gold/metal.

Here are some pics (sorry bad focus but my wide angle objective is not designed for this kind of photography):







Let me know if you have some advice for improving my painting. As I said in the previous post, I'm a beginner and I have a lot lot to learn...

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I totally understand how you feel with the first paint scheme not looking as 'primitive as you'd require, however I don't think this is due to lack of painting skills.

Your second orruk is looking far more in the 'primitive' category, and personally I think the job you've done so far looks good!

For the main darker metallic look on the armour, for me it is a little too drybrushed (however this being personal opinion) this could be exactly how you wanted it to look, if so I don't really have any advice) if I was to give advice, id maybe go about the armour in a slightly different approach (again this is a personal preference)

Basecoat - chosen colour

Damage - For the damaged look to the armour I prefer to use a small sponge, tear pieces off and dip them into either leadbelcher or a darker metallic paint, remove excess paint on a piece of kitchen towel and then begin to gently sponger onto the armour in areas that are either raised, areas that you feel require a 'heavy damage' look, and various other areas to give effect. Again this is a personal preference and would take away from a really metallic looking armour, but just a suggestion

Also here's a great way I feel is reasonably easy to achieve on weapons, again this is just a method I find looks good, and may be something you'd want to try:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CozRgIaBPgs

You could also take your painting up another level by adding edge highlights to the armour, depending on if you're wanting to achieve a more metallic look, or something based on a flat colour your highlight colour should be a lighter version of the previous colour, and applied to edges of armour plates etc..

Here's a video I found particularly helpful when learning to edge highlight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uLi2QLaRlg

As for the skin, I'm very amateur when painting skin (usually painting robot themed armies) however I may suggest a wash just to tie in the colours used. Many washes could be used for this, depending on the look you are going for, you could experiment with washes such as Beil tan green, Riekland fleshade or ever druchi violet in moderation! all of which are washed produced by Games Workshop.

Finally I'd advise on basing, I don't know If you're getting around to that, personally for the scheme to compliment it id go with a desert themed base

The following shows an easy yet effective method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFvzLX8CzrA

Also dead grass tufts take next to no effort to apply, but can really bring the overall base to life!

I too am a painter still learning, I hope that this information is somewhat helpful, if helpful at all!

Have a good day

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First let me thank you for your very useful reply! I'm really happy to have succeeded to make my model look more "primitive"

Yes there is a lot of drybrush. In fact the process was:

Basecoat: Leadbelcher/Abaddon Black mix 50/50

Wash of Nuln Oil * 2

Wash of Agrax Earthshade

Pure Leadbelcher drybrushed

Pure Ironbreaker drybrushed

Final wash of Agrax Earthshade

Some details with Typhus Corrosion + Ryza Rust

The goal was to put a dirty look on my amour.
But I think you are right and this is too much drybrushing, and I should go on a more clean and precise looking. I'll will give a try to your sponge tips for my next Brute.
Also, I love the amazing job done for the damage on this model (though I don't like the blue-ish look of the armour). Do you know how could I achieve that? I guess I just need a very sharp and thin brush, and a lot of skill
On the other hand, do you think I need to use the new "Gloss" version of the Nuln/Agrax to keep a more metallic look?

For the weapon this is in fact the way I achieved my weapon Eventually I drybrushed the whole weapon with Ironbreaker to achieve a less "shiny" looking than in the video. So do you think I misunderstood that?

For the skin, I didn't understand well what did you said. Are you talking about a final wash or glaze at the end of the process?

Thank you for the tips for the basing. Btw I did not make the base for a simple reason: I paint with a friend (he is Chaos) and we would like to have our model's base lore-friendly with the table terrain which is not designed yet

However, thank you a lot for your reply!
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I like the look you've achieved, actually reading through this thread made me take a look at picking up the mega boss as I'm usually more to the 40k side of the hobby. Along with the idea of having a more primitive style I think works really well.

As for the wash over the metal it all depends really, the gloss shades will allow you to keep a much more shiny look to the metal, I've recently been experimenting with the nuln oil gloss, and from what I can tell that's the only real difference. However with the gloss washes you have to be a little more careful with the pooling in certain area, as when the wash dries it will become shiny, and you don't want shiny recesses!

Its very hard to say, if I was attempting the scheme you showed I would probably do the following:

Basecoat - grey, I use Vallejo paints mainly but GW maybe mechanicus standard grey

Layer - very thin layers of runefang steel, this would be more to give the base colour a 'sparkle'

Wash - nuln oil, up to 3 times individually letting each dry, you could do less depending on how dark you wanted the metal.

Extreme highlights - literally highlight every area that is not smooth / edges of armour / slight sharp points where smooth armour panels meet using runefang steel. Again using a very small detail brush use runefang steel to create scratches

I'd personally go with a druchi violet wash over all of that to give it a little warmth, however I'd water it down a lot and it could give a slightly coloured tone to the armour.

Again this is all what I'd go with personally, I do not know the artist or how he/she was able to achieve this, but that's how I'd go about it

I think the weapon looks fine, I'd probably have kept it pretty dark and maybe left the final drybrush out, but that's more down to personal taste.

Totally understood, I had got the impression you wouldn't leave the base like that, was just worth adding incase

Keep rocking! be sure to post some more progress pictures along the line, it'd be great to see how your Orruk's / painting skills develop, all the best

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