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HQ- Asurmen
Farseer w/ spear and spirit stone of anath'lan

Troops- 10 guardians w/ bright lance
10 guardians w/ bright lance

LOW- wraith knight sword and shield 2x shuriken cannon

Aspect Host (+1 BS) 10 dire avengers w/ exarch (power weapon and shimmer shield) in a wave serpent
5 dire avengers w/ exarch (power weapon and shimmer shield)
10 warp spiders w/ exarch (spinneret rifle and two power blades)

Asurmen joins the avengers in the wave serpent. Warp spiders harass enemy infantry and light vehicle units. Farseer joins one guardian squad and provides support for other troops. Guardians try to pop enemy vehicles from afar. Wraith knight does wraith knight things. The main plan for is army is to hug cover and try to avoid close combat if possible as Asurmen is my only effective melee fighter.

Critiques welcome, but I want to avoid making this list too strong as I prefer to play narrative games and don't want a power list. Wraith knight is certainly cheesy but my opponents know this and I have given them recommendations to help deal with it in order to tone down the cheese.

Thanks!
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I disagree that asurmen is your only effective melee fighter - you have a D sword wraithknight. I love your inclusion of asurmen though, the Phoenix lords don't get enough love nowadays.

Lastly - what models do you have at your disposal? I feel like your list could benefit from some long ranged firepower, particularly some anti-AV. Perhaps some war walkers? A falcon? Reapers with starshot missiles? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/713677/9125957.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/713677/9125957.page GMT
Thanks guys!


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I mainly have bikes and some other psychic elements but I want to avoid using the bikes. I do have some harlequins that I can possibly slot in in the future for some added threats. Anti-vehicle is the main issue I need to solve now. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/713677/9126321.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/713677/9126321.page GMT
If you've got the models, I suggest an asepect host of 2x5 spiders with naked exarchs and a unit of reapers. Keep the 15 avengers, but put them in a dire avenger shrine instead. That's a fun formation that also can get decent mileage with their rules. You might have to drop Asurman or the farseer, but more units could make a more interesting game.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/713677/9126602.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/713677/9126602.page GMT
Thanks Rypher. Didn't realize the power blades were strength=user. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/713677/9127083.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/713677/9127083.page GMT DA or pay for an exarch. 5 DA on foot do fairly well, just use the shoot then run to keep out of LOSand/or charge range.

as for not using bikes.... I love them just to depower you can run 1 scatter laser/shuri cannon per 3. they are fast, objective secured and jet bike move means usually kept out of line of sight. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/713677/9127514.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/713677/9127514.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/713677/9129812.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/713677/9129812.page GMT