<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Approaching Mob Rule from a different perspective: Multiple nearby units = a mob. (Early thought)"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/16.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Approaching Mob Rule from a different perspective: Multiple nearby units = a mob. (Early thought) MSU (small expendable units of Bikes, Mek Guns, Tankbustas, and solo Deffkoptas), or a single clunky Green Tide with said MSU support. The mob rule is either "all punishment, no point", or doesn't apply.

The initial idea is that rather than purchasing individual Ork units, you purchase a "mob" for a particular FoC slot. A mob is similar to a Guard Platoon with a twist:

An Ork mob uses the highest Leadership available to its mob. An Ork unit adds +1 to its Leadership for each non-vehicle unit from the same mob with at least 5 remaining wounds that is within 6" of it. Should a unit's leadership exceed 10 in this manner, the unit is treated as being Fearless.

The idea being that Orks gain leadership from lots of smaller congregating into a tide that is braver than the sum of its parts, but if you can isolate parts of the mob (be it by shooting a particular section, tank shock, etc), you can defeat the mob in detail. This also could theoretically let you move certain "specialist" Ork types (Stikkbommas, Byrnaboyz, etc) as unit options for a mob, rather than shoehorning them to Elites.

Optionally, certain "specialist" types (Kommandos, etc) can treat each other as part of the same Mob, despite not being taken as part of a Mob.

You could do similar things for Kults of Speed, or other "platoon-like" compositions of Orks.

Thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/714287/9137045.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/714287/9137045.page GMT Approaching Mob Rule from a different perspective: Multiple nearby units = a mob. (Early thought) LD would go up by 4 from doing this prior to hand to hand then at best +2 due to the nature of close combat. Not sure how it would help small units in exploding trukks. they'd all have to be pushed up fairly close to each other and if the bonus applies from transported units them I can't see more than +1 or maybe +2 to LD for those orks falling out of exploding trukks. So to me it's hardly better. I'd rather see items that pip the LD of Nobs. It's easier and you know what your getting into. That doesn't many your idea isn't good. it's not too dissimilar from how the TAU pip their shooting.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/714287/9137101.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/714287/9137101.page GMT Approaching Mob Rule from a different perspective: Multiple nearby units = a mob. (Early thought)
For the sake of discussion, some alternatives to mob rule that I've liked include:

* Orks may choose to use the number of wounds in their unit in place of their actual leadership. Nobs gain +1 Ld, and boss poles add an extra Ld.

* Treat "mob rule" as a sort of leadership "feel no pain." So you'd test on their normal leadership to see if they pass or fail. If they fail, roll a d6. On a 6+, they pass the morale test anyway. Add +1 to this for every 10 models in the mob (rounding down). Add +1 to his if the unit is in combat. Add +1 if the unit contains a boss pole. And then give all "sergeants" +1 Leadership in general. This helps both big squads and small squads, but it gives footsloggers a bigger boost to help them cross the table without running and it helps smaller elite units by letting them get a +1 with a character and by not killing them when they fail a leadership test.

And as a passing thought, what about letting units of the same type "absorb" fleeing friendly models? So when a squad of tank bustas starts running away, maybe they retreat to the nearest squad of buustas that isn't locked in combat or embarked in a transport and then simply becomes part of the unit. The ork player would still be "losing units," but they'd also be keeping their models. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/714287/9137806.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/714287/9137806.page GMT Approaching Mob Rule from a different perspective: Multiple nearby units = a mob. (Early thought) USRs. Imagine an entire mob of Stealth Tank Hunter Boyz, with absorbed meganobz]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/714287/9137827.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/714287/9137827.page GMT Approaching Mob Rule from a different perspective: Multiple nearby units = a mob. (Early thought)
 MagicJuggler wrote:
That last could be problematic in the case of absorbing units with odd Specialist USRs. Imagine an entire mob of Stealth Tank Hunter Boyz, with absorbed meganobz


I was picturing something more like bustas joining bustas, boyz joining boyz, etc.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/714287/9137835.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/714287/9137835.page GMT Approaching Mob Rule from a different perspective: Multiple nearby units = a mob. (Early thought) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/714287/9138253.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/714287/9138253.page GMT